Was a fair catch called?

[AKPantherFan]

I dont give a poo- we got the ball- we won.....

end of story

[goodlay]

First it was a douchebag move, now it's heads-up? Make up your mind.

Well, because it's both. Looking at it from a Redskins fan perspective, I would be pissed off, if that happened to us, this board would be livid. But it was a heads up play because you rarely see guys do that, and it worked out to our advantage and it saved our asses, really. If that didn't happen though, I really doubt we win that game.

[hank pimple butt]

Well, because it's both. Looking at it from a Redskins fan perspective, I would be pissed off, if that happened to us, this board would be livid. But it was a heads up play because you rarely see guys do that, and it worked out to our advantage and it saved our asses, really. If that didn't happen though, I really doubt we win that game.

the only "douche bag move" in that game was, when portis mocked moose' td celebration

[AKPantherFan]

the only "douche bag move" in that game was, when portis mocked moose' td celebration

i agree- but karma's a bitch huh :smilewinkgrin:

[Proudiddy]

the fair call was fine

teal tossing westbrook was fine. by the book.

you don't need to defend it or make it westbrooks fault.

I'd simply say it was taking advantage of a non-rule. teal saw that randle el had fair catch signaled and made a heads up play by chucking his blocker into randle el. a ref can't call that a penalty,if he did he'd be going against the NFL rulebook.

Thanks for clearing that up b/c I was thinking I had seen that call made against us before, and in other games as well. Only difference was, the calls that were made in similar plays were made when a blocker was thrown into a returner who had NOT signaled fair catch.

That's why I was trying to justify it, b/c I had no idea it was legal to throw a blocker into a returner PERIOD. Yeah, they may end up changing that rule, but I 'm not sure b/c it obviously doesn't happen much.

[Proudiddy]

And BTW, no one mentioned this, but the difference between winners and losers are that the calls go your way more often than not in any given game. Think to the Falcons and Cowgirls games... The calls were not in our favor. Non-calls went in their favor.

Today, we got away with several pass interference calls (Richard Marshall repeatedly). The muffed punt happened in our favor, even though it was legal, that stuff usually doesn't work out for us. Today it did...

[AKPantherFan]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

he is right... Luck plays a big part on those who win championships.

We have had enough go bad that its our time for some luck....

Good for us..

[Proudiddy]

Apparently what I said did have something to do with it. The fact that Westbrook turned around and engaged Teal did have something to with it...

From Darin Gantt's twitter:

Getting a lot of questions on the #Redskins muffed punt. Refs said #Panthers S Teal wasn't flagged since he was engaged w/blocker downfield.

[jbland]

"Carolina's Quinton Teal blocked Washington's Byron Westbrook into returner Antwaan Randle El, which was ruled a legal play because Randle El had moved forward due to the short punt. The ball bounced off Westbrook's foot and Carolina's Dante Wesley pounced on the ball."

Does this answer your question?

[ThPantherFan]

Once the ball hits a receiving player, it is fair game. There was no foul, obviously. You block and fight for the ball as in any play. Even if he called for a fair catch, the ball hit another player. Once that happens, it's time to play.

[RedMage138]

How long is it going to take you to realize that Zod doesn't actually know anything about football and can't read. All he does it take pictures of hot girls and somehow got this website out of it

[Sultan33g]

now stop freaking arguing:

http://reederstake.freedomblogging.com/2009/10/11/clarification-on-punt-play/1905/

case closed

[Seamonk]

now stop freaking arguing:

http://reederstake.freedomblogging.com/2009/10/11/clarification-on-punt-play/1905/

case closed

yeah and that walt coleman excerpt has been posted like 10 times in this thread yet people keep trying to figure it out. it's possibly the easiest thing to understand too.

if (fair catch) {

if (blocker = engaged && blocked_into_own_team = true) {

no penalty

}

else { penalty }

}

It's all dependent if the blocker was trying to block(which he was). If he just got pushed into him out of no where(not engaged with the blocker) then it would have been a penalty. this led to the lack of interference call and hit the BLOCKER on the leg. If ANY member of the receiving team touches the ball and is recovered by the kicking team, it's a muffed fumble.

[Snake]

Just watched Panthers Huddle on NBC after the late news. Most of us on here know the play was legal...but just to get it through to those who don't, co-host Mike Minter said Danny Crossman teaches that exact move. Teal did it perfectly. Jake also mentioned the perfectly done play by Teal.

If I was the Redskins I would have been pissed at Randle El. Its his Job to let everyone know he is calling for a fair catch so they stop blocking. The error was on the redskins side.