Aaron Hernandez's Brain

[RealisticPanther]

On 11/10/2017 at 4:08 PM, Floppin said:

You did no leg work. You made bullshit opinion based arguments while not actually providing any evidence in refute other than a "derp I'm smarter than these scientists so I know that these statements are false because of my made up opinion" 

You have no idea apparently of my background and I could give two shits about your bio undergrad. I'm more educated than you but that doesn't matter. Make a real argument that refutes the science other than "its wrong because in my uneducated opinion these brain scans look the same or something despite that not actually being the science discussed mmm paintchips." Otherwise you can suck your apology off my asshair.

Wrong, i have a very good idea of your education just based on your inability to differentiate conjecture from science. You're an idiot. plain and simple. 

Also, based on the fact nothing you just said makes sense and nothing you have said is true. I've given you plenty of evidence not based on my opinion whatsoever, if you're too stupid to read the studies the authors cited as proof and see how they're inconclusive then I don't know what to tell you other than stop debating things you're not smart enough to understand.

[Cyberjag]

Ok, so I read through all this crap earlier just because I was interested in the CTE thing.  I am under the impression that you believe CTE is a thing, but not that it causes all sorts of behavior.  I'm not sure that is unreasonable either, as there's no way to determine who has CTE until after they're dead, and even then you have no way of knowing when they got it, so it stands to reason that there's no way to determine causation.

What I'm curious about is who profits.  With the Global Warming thing, there's an obvious control/power thing in play.  With most conspiracy theories, someone wins somehow.  If CTE is a bunch of BS, why are people saying that it's a big thing and the cause of all these problems?  Who wins if they're right?

Hope my question makes sense.  I'm genuinely interested in what you think on this, given what you've said about the issue so far.

@RealisticPanther

[RealisticPanther]

4 minutes ago, Cyberjag said:

Ok, so I read through all this crap earlier just because I was interested in the CTE thing.  I am under the impression that you believe CTE is a thing, but not that it causes all sorts of behavior.  I'm not sure that is unreasonable either, as there's no way to determine who has CTE until after they're dead, and even then you have no way of knowing when they got it, so it stands to reason that there's no way to determine causation.

What I'm curious about is who profits.  With the Global Warming thing, there's an obvious control/power thing in play.  With most conspiracy theories, someone wins somehow.  If CTE is a bunch of BS, why are people saying that it's a big thing and the cause of all these problems?  Who wins if they're right?

Hope my question makes sense.  I'm genuinely interested in what you think on this, given what you've said about the issue so far.

@RealisticPanther

Because when Junior Seau died, they found he had "CTE." ...Then subsequently they found CTE was very prevalent among NFL football players, and so they jumped to conclusions and, like most trendy crap like that, u can get easy funding and grants to do studies on it also.

You'll be hard pressed to find a doctor who says CTE causes any major problems or they have any conclusive evidence, or even very good suggestive evidence. Its all speculative and there's no evidence to directly link it to anything. There's studies showing that a history of concussion can mildly affect cognitive ability, so you can infer what you'd like from that, and I do...I infer that CTE is "real", but not in the sense its made out to be, I think its a very minor thing that doesn't warrant as much worry and hype as its getting.

Pretty much the fact everyone thinks its "conclusive" is because on the media hype around it. I tend to believe CTE is very prevalent in the general population, as you see soccer players who...what, hit a ball with their heads every once in a while? with CTE just like football players..retired military with high prevalence, etc. As I've said before, you can also look it up and see that people with PTSD, depression, etc. have brains indistinguishable from people with CTE.  Guess which NFL players' brains were donated to be studied for CTE(like in the latest study where 110/111 brains had CTE)?? PLAYERS WHO DIED FROM SUICIDE OR SHOWED DEPRESSIVE SYMPTOMS! Just logically it appears to me to be a bunch of hype and until any kind of study comes out to prove otherwise, that's where I stand. 

http://www.slate.com/articles/sports/sports_nut/2017/07/the_press_is_overhyping_the_latest_study_on_cte_in_the_nfl.html

That article about sums up where I'm at as well. There just doesn't appear to be much of any symptoms of CTE in living players, it doesn't seem to affect them. 

[Thanatos]

I had no idea we had so many nutcase conspiracy theorists on this site.

[Cyberjag]

50 minutes ago, RealisticPanther said:

Because when Junior Seau died, they found he had "CTE." ... <snip>

So basically, it's just a cudgel to beat up football with, huh?

[RealisticPanther]

3 hours ago, Cyberjag said:

So basically, it's just a cudgel to beat up football with, huh?

I don't think that was really its initial intent, I think with the media it just got out of control and ended up that way.