"Still feeling our way around"

[RoaringRiot]

3 minutes ago, tiger7_88 said:

Sure thing, Company Man.

Doesn't surprise me that you're a guy who enjoys twisting RR's words around and then bashes the media for doing the same thing to Cam. 

[Zaximus]

he's a deer in headlights, and has been for a long time.   

[PanthersBigD]

Rivera's teams historically do waaaay better in the second half of the season, so the fact that we're 6-3 at this point is pretty amazing. The fact that things might finally be 'starting to click' and we've only lost 3 games is a good sign. 

[TheCasillas]

4 minutes ago, Zaximus said:

he's a deer in headlights, and has been for a long time.   

@ZaximusOut of curiosity how would you describe the following coaches (with rivera being "a deer in headlights")

Dirk Koetter/Marvin Lewis/Adam Gase/Jason Garret/Vance Joseph/Jay Gruden/Jack Del Rio/John Harbaugh

I am really interested in your perspective.

[xav8tor]

Just watched the presser. In fairness to Rivera, the comment was regarding the recent personnel changes, not the whole offense identity thing. Clearly, TOP via the run game is a big thing to him, but he complimented Shula on opening the play book with more misdirection, PA, reverses, etc., and wants to see the ball spread around with occassional deep shots. To top it off, he wants more TE involvement besides blocking. Sanjay should be ecstatic.

[Paa Langfart]

1 hour ago, RoaringRiot said:

Players getting expanded roles after KB's departure is "new" still. 

So any time one of our starters goes out for a game or two and someone steps up its all "new".

 

Ok

[TheCasillas]

5 minutes ago, Paa Langfart said:

So any time one of our starters goes out for a game or two and someone steps up its all "new".

 

Ok

Technically it's new for AT LEAST three people. The new #1 (route tree) the new #2  (route tree) and the QB adjusting to the timing of the new #1 running the existing route tree.

not an argument just nature of the game.

[*FreeFua*]

6 minutes ago, Paa Langfart said:

So any time one of our starters goes out for a game or two and someone steps up its all "new".

 

Ok

The guys being asked to fill these roles that Benji left are all somewhat new to those positions. 

Funch has never been a full time 1

Shepard is now seeing an expanded role for first time in career

Samuel is still learning the position 

[RoaringRiot]

16 minutes ago, Paa Langfart said:

So any time one of our starters goes out for a game or two and someone steps up its all "new".

 

Ok

Do you really think a starter "going out for a game or two" and the team moving on from an offense where KB was WR1 are the same things? 

[therealmjl]

49 minutes ago, panthers34 said:

You guys are just looking for anything to bash Rivera now and it’s honestly sad. He obviously means that they are just starting to get use to life without Kelvin and with the new first year guys 

would you rather have him say they are exactly where they need to be? Because clearly they aren’t yet 

Preach

[Mr. Scot]

8 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

@ZaximusOut of curiosity how would you describe the following coaches (with rivera being "a deer in headlights")

Dirk Koetter/Marvin Lewis/Adam Gase/Jason Garret/Vance Joseph/Jay Gruden/Jack Del Rio/John Harbaugh

I am really interested in your perspective.

Most of those guys are fairly new. Rivera isn't. 

Marvin Lewis probably should have been fired years ago but the Bengals are a terrible organization. Del Rio's Raiders are struggling this year but looked better than us last year even though they've got the distraction of the Las Vegas thing. 

John Harbaugh? Yeah, his team has had a rough time lately but he's got a ring and has fielded numerous contending teams. Rivera is not in his league. 

[TheCasillas]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Most of those guys are fairly new. Rivera isn't. 

Marvin Lewis probably should have been fired years ago but the Bengals are a terrible organization. Del Rio's Raiders are struggling this year but looked better than us last year even though they've got the distraction of the Las Vegas thing. 

John Harbaugh? Yeah, his team has had a rough time lately but he's got a ring and has fielded numerous contending teams. Rivera is not in his league. 

Oh I wasn't asking for a comparison to Rivera, I just wanted perspective. 5 of the 8 are tenured coaches.... VJ -DK- AG were revered coordinators before taking their gigs. However, their teams have taken U-Turns.

The reason I bring up JH is that he hasn't had a winning season since 2014 (.625). 

One interesting note about all of those head coaches (we can include many more)... outside of JH - 0 playoff wins. It's one thing to get to the playoffs but to win? That is a whole different level of coaching.

 

I will take Rivera over these coaches any day. Because believe me... the Huddle would be torn down if these guys were our coaches.

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

Oh I wasn't asking for a comparison to Rivera, I just wanted perspective. 5 of the 8 are tenured coaches.... VJ -DK- AG were revered coordinators before taking their gigs. However, their teams have taken U-Turns.

The reason I bring up JH is that he hasn't had a winning season since 2014 (.625). 

One interesting note about all of those head coaches (we can include many more)... outside of JH - 0 playoff wins. It's one thing to get to the playoffs but to win? That is a whole different level of coaching.

 

I will take Rivera over these coaches any day. Because believe me... the Huddle would be torn down if these guys were our coaches.

I'm not that big a fan of Lewis or Del Rio but Rivera over John Harbaugh? That is some major homerism

[tiger7_88]

51 minutes ago, RoaringRiot said:

Doesn't surprise me that you're a guy who enjoys twisting RR's words around and then bashes the media for doing the same thing to Cam. 

Because there was some contractual requirement, pre-trade, to center the passing game around “#1 WR” Kelvin Benjamin right?

They were unable in every way to “evolve” to what they are supposedly doing now earlier in the season right?