Sneak Peak: Why Kelvin Benjamin Was Traded, And Why The Panthers Could Be Better Because Of It

[Cyberjag]

8 hours ago, csx said:

15 of the 34 players who had over 1000 yards last season were drafted in the 3rd round or beyond.

Steve Smith was drafted in the 3rd, if memory serves...

[*FreeFua*]

I’m willing to bet that if I go and open Vinny’s article on the Riot Report i’ll find the exact same Tampa gif in the OP

 

[Cyberjag]

23 minutes ago, JakeDel5674 said:

I'm delusional for thinking our HC, OC, and QB Coach, GM, and lastly our Owner are ruining our Franchise?  Alrighty, welp, I'm delusional like the rest of the reasonable fans of this team.  Thanks guy.  

I think you're probably a new alt ID for an old poster who was run off the board for being a general idiot.  I have a lot of respect for what Saca does, even when I think he's a little optimistic in his analysis.  I have a lot of respect for the back-and-forth discussions I've had with Pantherclaw, CSX, CRA, and several other posters who disagree with you and in this case I find I agree with their general contempt of what you bring to the discussion.  

And lastly, I don't think that anyone in the Front Office is trying to ruin the franchise.  It believe all of them are doing what they think is best for the team in both the short term and long.  They all also know far, far more about running a franchise than anyone who takes the time to post here, so it's time better spent to try and understand their moves rather than rant in frustration.

Cut Saca some slack.  If you disagree with his analysis so much try discussing it, rather than attacking the messenger.

[Lumps]

A homer thread about how an awful move is actually a great move by Saca...who would've thunk lol

Seriously, I get we have Funchess but the mistake is not having two of the same build receivers the mistake was DRAFTING two of the same receivers and trading the better of the two who has a nice rapport with Cam.  I liked KB and with Olsen, and a speed receiver it was a good mix, adding in a good slot check down, which was done. Only piece missing was speed. But again, the mistake was the waster #1 draft pick.

I liked KB and his biggest negative was CAM forcing it to him too much but that's on Cam. That's why taking him out in 2015 worked so well when Cam spread it around. No reason Cam can't be taught to do this with KB. But then again inept people are teaching Cam, obviously, at this point so who knows. I'll try and stay positive about this but as of now I have no idea how anyone could say it was a great move.

[Saca312]

28 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

I’m willing to bet that if I go and open Vinny’s article on the Riot Report i’ll find the exact same Tampa gif in the OP

 

Yes you would, as far as specific play used. He used the same one I pointed out and I thought it was a great example.

The plays I pointed out came from Tampa, so most other analysts probably used similar stuff from that game. 

And y’all should read that article. Vincents a good breakdown guy and makes some very good points - moreso than I did here.

[JakeDel5674]

23 minutes ago, Cyberjag said:

I think you're probably a new alt ID for an old poster who was run off the board for being a general idiot.  I have a lot of respect for what Saca does, even when I think he's a little optimistic in his analysis.  I have a lot of respect for the back-and-forth discussions I've had with Pantherclaw, CSX, CRA, and several other posters who disagree with you and in this case I find I agree with their general contempt of what you bring to the discussion.  

And lastly, I don't think that anyone in the Front Office is trying to ruin the franchise.  It believe all of them are doing what they think is best for the team in both the short term and long.  They all also know far, far more about running a franchise than anyone who takes the time to post here, so it's time better spent to try and understand their moves rather than rant in frustration.

Cut Saca some slack.  If you disagree with his analysis so much try discussing it, rather than attacking the messenger.

Wrong, wrong, I just lurked for a long time.  And who was this general idiot you speak of?  Please, tell me what discussion you would like me to hold with him?  He piggybacks analysis off of others, and "tries" to understand what he's talking about.  As you can tell by FreeFua and his conversation currently.  I'm done with this, honestly.  He's never going to change, and for some odd reason you guys will continue to let it slide.  Whatever man.  

[pantherclaw]

Please be done. You don't know which ass you're speaking out of.

[JakeDel5674]

18 minutes ago, pantherclaw said:

Please be done. You don't know which ass you're speaking out of.

I didn't know my hands were asses, because I'm typing up on a Forum on the Internet, technically.  Not speaking at all.  

[pantherclaw]

1 minute ago, JakeDel5674 said:

I didn't know my hands were asses, because I'm typing up on a Forum on the Internet, technically.  Not speaking at all.  

I'm quoting this Golden Nugget.

[JakeDel5674]

Just now, pantherclaw said:

I'm quoting this Golden Nugget.

Congrats?  

[csx]

Am I the only one who rolls my eyes any time a blogger/twitter analyst refers to the grade they gave a draft prospect?

[shulasmyhero]

12 hours ago, RoaringRiot said:

I'm confused as to why you think the Panthers were just sitting there and the Bills called with this idea and Hurney took it. Is it just because it happened right before the deadline that's making you assume this? 

Pretty simple really, Marty said it wasn't something they were pursuing (shopping KB).  Buffalo called and they decided to go ahead and make the trade.

[RetiredCollegeCoach]

I don't always agree with Saca, but he actually pays attention and thinks, unlike some of you.

(Hint: If you don't understand that Darryl Williams is a major weakness, arguing about football is not for you.)

KB was a redundant asset getting regularly outplayed and outcompeted by a younger and cheaper teammate. His compensation was about to explode - with no commensurate increase in production or in footballing wherewithal.

More importantly, the one guy in this thread who mentioned the knee was onto something. Hint hint.

[Panthersreunited]

On November 1, 2017 at 11:42 PM, saX man said:

The biggest issue is still the value we got.  He was a proven first rounder and we got a 3rd and 7th.  You can't cherry coat or change that.

I do think Funchess was the right one to keep of the two as much as the anti-Funch faction may hate it.

If Funchess-Samuel somehow works fairly quickly, then this will start to look somewhat ok but man, I'm just going to be ugh until I see this unit play again.  

Stfu