Steve Smith: "There are routes that those two guys (Benjamin/Funchess) can't run. So if you have the same two guys running the same routes it limits your offense and route tree."

[emhoward]

And although I agree KB is better than Fun, I've been more impressed with Funchess this year so far. And since fun is younger (which theoretically means he has more upside) and cheaper, if I had to trade one it would be KB. But of course as plenty have pointed out, we didn't have to trade one, one could have been benched.

[trueblade]

5 minutes ago, The Righteous Troll said:

Funchess really earned my respect in that New England game. He was clearly cramping and made a clutch catch on 3rd down. He does get a few offensive PI calls but if your that big and don't get a few of them you aren't really fighting for the ball

I'm seeing more OPI this year than I remember in years past. I'm wondering if it was a "point of emphasis" this past offseason to the refs.

[*FreeFua*]

6 minutes ago, rayzor said:

the problem is that beane knew he was dealing with a gambling addict in hurney.

he kept dangling that carrot out and probably made his greatest push at the end and hurney just couldn't resist.

all we're going to see now is him trying to justify it.

I’d love to know how the conversation went.

Im willing to bet Beane was thinking he’d come in low with this offer and Marty didn’t even counter, just agreed.

Id have to look to know what exactly they got but I think the Bills have an extra 2nd from all the deals they made this offseason. If Beane wanted Benji that bad Hurney could’ve grabbed one of their extra 2nd rounders

[The Righteous Troll]

Just now, trueblade said:

I'm seeing more OPI this year than I remember in years past. I'm wondering if it was a "point of emphasis" this past offseason to the refs.

Gronkowski gets hit with it alot but it seems like if you don't get one you aren't trying...I think Antonio Brown had one recently

[hepcat]

Listened to the show. Steve had some great insight.

Spoke about how not having guys like Ted Ginn or Greg Olsen on the field is limiting the big "chunk" plays. Makes defenses "pin their ears back" and defend the "short and sweet" plays because they know the offense can't get big plays.

Says Funchess and Benjamin are identical guys. Said for $8.2m a year, and the fact that Benjamin was unable to run every route on the route tree (talking about routes), makes him expendable. Said Funchess is cheaper and has more upside, and Benjamin might have already hit his ceiling talent wise, especially with the injury history.

Message to the other players: Initially a shock. Doesn't think the message has sunk in yet, if there was a message. Says by looking at the film, Panthers needed more speed on the field and agrees with the move from a coaching standpoint. Steve loves Curtis Samuel. Says he's still transitioning from RB in college to WR in the NFL. Compares Samuel to Julian Edleman and his transition to the NFL. Took Edleman 4 years before he really started contributing. Stresses patience with Samuel, says he will be a good player.

Says he doesn't think the offense is changing at all. The players are changing, so maybe having some extra speed on field will change things more than the plays.

Steve wouldn't go so far to say Hurney will be the full time GM. But says that getting the extra 3rd round pick replaces a guy that "was getting 100 tackles a year (Davis), starting at center for 8-9 years (Kalil) and you "can't go to a local flag football game on the weekend and pick them up"

Surprisingly, looks like Hurney made a strictly business move. Maybe he did learn something from Gettleman.

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Side note, regarding the Steve Smith - Michael Irvin spat with Steve's pants. Steve says his wife is his stylist, and his wife picked out his pants. Says that Irvin KNEW that, and that he took offense because Irvin knew he was disrespecting his wife. Sounds like he actually will whoop Irvin's ass when he sees him. I might pay to see that.

[CPF4LIFE]

21 minutes ago, Jeremy Igo said:

Ring ring

 

Hello

 

Hey Mike, it's Ron. Listen, if I see KB and Funchess on the field together you are fuggin fired. Good talk. 

 

Click.

 

 

Problem solved without hurting depth a great deal.

Its funny you think Ron would even be competent enough to make that call. Sounds like the decision was rightfully took out his hands. 

[KillerKat]

3 minutes ago, hepcat said:

 

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Side note, regarding the Steve Smith - Michael Irvin spat with Steve's pants. Steve says his wife is his stylist, and his wife picked out his pants. Says that Irvin KNEW that, and that he took offense because Irvin knew he was disrespecting his wife. Sounds like he actually will whoop Irvin's ass when he sees him. I might pay to see that.

Some things never change with people.

[frash.exe]

lol

our offense is limited...let’s trade away one of our first round picks for peanuts to open it up

 

you can’t make this poo up guys

[Snake]

You will never make me understand why we didn't sign D. Jax. I'm also not getting why we didn't enquire about TY Hilton. 

[Bartin]

3 minutes ago, Snake said:

I'm also not getting why we didn't enquire about TY Hilton.

How do you know that we didn't.

[frash.exe]

also since when does this team give a crap what the receivers do

 

all it has ever felt like is ron and shula capping the passing game at 3500 yards to deliver on JR’s vision of being a running team at any cost (creativity, league trends, wins, my sanity)

if cam was on any other team he’d be throwing for almost 5000 yards every year, and here we have him put up doug flutie #s, but fuging OH NOES LET’S NOT HAVE TWO TALL RECEIVERS LINING UP OUTSIDE THE HASH MARKS AT THE SAME TIME WE DON’T WANNA LIMIT THIS OFFENSE

[CPcavedweller]

42 minutes ago, beastson said:

I believe most people agree with this.

It seems, instead of KB being traded, many think it should have been Funchess traded.

We could get more for Kelvin than we could for Benjamin. 

[TheRumGone]

2 minutes ago, frash.exe said:

also since when does this team give a crap what the receivers do

 

all it has ever felt like is ron and shula capping the passing game at 3500 yards to deliver on JR’s vision of being a running team at any cost (creativity, league trends, wins, my sanity)

if cam was on any other team he’d be throwing for almost 5000 yards every year

Preach.

[RumHam]

So Smitty, wanna come back?