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falcons analyst pretty much destroys any shred of credibility towards the idea this offense is complex and evolving.


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My biggest problems with the “analysis” is that the majority of those “predictable” play clips resulted in positive gains or good yardage...which is what you want, right? Also, it’s a play design, not a “targeted design” (I think). Cam should be taught to make reads and use discretion when throwing the ball. Just because CMC goes into motion doesn’t always mean the ball is 100% going his way. I’d like to see other plays where CMC goes into motion and doesn’t get a target. There are probably more of those than these handful of “predictable” clips...

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21 minutes ago, CRA said:

breaking news.

MOST offenses are actually extremely predictable if you follow them.   You know why Luke calls out like 90% of the opposing plays to his teammates? Because most offenses do the exact same things all season. 

Given it is Atlanta, Luke probably will know an even higher percentage of plays than vs a non-divisional opponent. 

 

I have always said NFL is a largely a talent game.  You need talent to win the matchups that matter most in game.  Most NFL coaches know exactly what is coming overall from an opponent.  Can your LT hold an edge rush long enough for the huge play you know will be there downfield vs their coverage?  Can your RG pull around and take out the LB he is suppose to?   Does your DB cover his guy? or keep does he never turn his head around and just panic because he is up against a better WR and allows a QB to complete balls that really shouldn't be completed (Worley).  Heck, if Worley was smart enough to turn around on plays he could have picks.  The individual matchups matter more than coaching IMO. 

You can make all the sense you want, but they won't listen to you here.

You can watch an extremely efficient offense with a ton of weapons like the Chiefs last night, and they still have plays that go for negative yardage and throw out a couple of three and outs. If they were the Panthers instead, folks on here would be calling for Reid's job and benching Smith. 

A number of these folks came onboard during the 2015 season, so they expect that as the norm, not realizing what an actual Cinderella run that was (including the drama of the clock striking midnight). Others spend their days playing Madden and wondering why Shula doesn't just hit the juke button more often or notice the highlighted receiver. Some are more interested in fantasy football and a few just like watching Cam in tight pants.

You'll never get through to them. Those that understand the game and have some insight into problems, ehhh, good luck wading through the static to get any info across.

This forum is getting to be like being stuck in a 20-hour road trip with two people in the back seat constantly whining about the radio and the heater. And we're only on hour 8.

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19 minutes ago, CRA said:

breaking news.

MOST offenses are actually extremely predictable if you follow them.   You know why Luke calls out like 90% of the opposing plays to his teammates? Because most offenses do the exact same things all season. 

Given it is Atlanta, Luke probably will know an even higher percentage of plays than vs a non-divisional opponent. 

 

I have always said NFL is a largely a talent game.  You need talent to win the matchups that matter most in game.  Most NFL coaches know exactly what is coming overall from an opponent.  Can your LT hold an edge rush long enough for the huge play you know will be there downfield vs their coverage?  Can your RG pull around and take out the LB he is suppose to?   Does your DB cover his guy? or keep does he never turn his head around and just panic because he is up against a better WR and allows a QB to complete balls that really shouldn't be completed (Worley).  Heck, if Worley was smart enough to turn around on plays he could have picks.  The individual matchups matter more than coaching IMO. 

How many times have you heard members of this forum complaining about how Shula is always "run-run-pass" ???

In actuality, Mike Shula is one of the least predictable play callers in terms of run/ pass in the entire NFL. 

It is a slightly different topic, but just goes to show how the average fan is always looking for the easy guy to blame. 

When this team struggles, it's always Shula and Rivera's fault.

Rivera has won NFL coach of the year twice (!!!), but according to a large percentage of Huddler's he is a complete moron with whom the team can never hope to win. 

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The only way showing two GIFs proves anything about anything is by means of a little thing called “confirmation bias”. I could find two GIFs to literally “prove” anything...hell, I could pull two GIFs from the Lions game alone to suggest Luke Kuechly is the worst tackler in the NFL.

 

Your analysis used to be a lot more original, insightful, and well-researched, even if it was injected with bias and homerism. I would mostly disagree with your opinions and there’d usually be a few accompanying eye-rolls when reading it, but I very much respected how much time you were putting into watching film, making GIFs, and typing up your analysis. Nowadays you seem to just link other peoples’ research/analysis (often some obscure twitter user) and attach your opinion to it. Which is fine, that’s typically what most people do on here...but I guess I just got used to your posts in the off-season. Like you’ve spent a lot of the season talking about how bad or overrated Daryl Williams is, but I haven’t seen you post any GIFs or evidence to support that claim. This should be very easy to do unless you just don’t have time to watch any film anymore. The only thing you posted was a twitter post talking about how much help he gets...which with minimal context doesn’t really mean much.

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1 hour ago, CRA said:

breaking news.

MOST offenses are actually extremely predictable if you follow them.   You know why Luke calls out like 90% of the opposing plays to his teammates? Because most offenses do the exact same things all season. 

Given it is Atlanta, Luke probably will know an even higher percentage of plays than vs a non-divisional opponent. 

 

I have always said NFL is a largely a talent game.  You need talent to win the matchups that matter most in game.  Most NFL coaches know exactly what is coming overall from an opponent.  Can your LT hold an edge rush long enough for the huge play you know will be there downfield vs their coverage?  Can your RG pull around and take out the LB he is suppose to?   Does your DB cover his guy? or does he never turn his head around and just panic because he is up against a better WR and allows a QB to complete balls that really shouldn't be completed (Worley).  Heck, if Worley was smart enough to turn around on plays he could have picks.  The individual matchups matter more than coaching IMO. 

There's a lot of truth to this. But at what point does Shula realize that what he is doing IS NOT WORKING, whether it is a lack of talent, execution, playcalling, whatever, and do something different? Like is he straight up out of ideas?

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. And that is exactly what Mike Shula does every game. I don't know how many times he can call a draw play up the middle for no gain and expect something to change.

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