Can this defense win a Superbowl?

[bigdog10]

Not without both of the following

-an offense that doesn’t at minimum sustain drives and doesn’t turn the ball over in our own territory

-causing at least two turnovers a game. 

[Mr. Scot]

I'm not even even convinced this team could win a Wild Card game. 

Could the defense keep up? Probably, but on the other hand you'd have the offense and special teams going up against a playoff caliber opponent.

That formula doesn't work for me. 

[Davidson Deac II]

13 minutes ago, E CaT PanTHer 2 said:

34 

30

24

28

points allowed in 4 consecutive weeks. Definitely not superbowl caliber

34  -  3 interceptions, two on our side of the field

30  -  best qb  in football

24  -  Dominated for most of the game, allowed them to make it close at the end (familiar story for us)

28  -  Because of interceptions, they started two drives inside our 20 yard line.  

 

Saints probably would have beat us anyway.  But without the turnovers, we are probably 7-1 right now.  

[Davidson Deac II]

9 minutes ago, bigdog10 said:

Not without both of the following

-an offense that doesn’t at minimum sustain drives and doesn’t turn the ball over in our own territory

-causing at least two turnovers a game. 

I am not even sure we really have to cause turnovers.  If we just avoid turning it over ourselves, we should be ok.  

 

Lots of talk in this thread about Denver's defense from 2015.  One thing most people forget is that while Manning had a bad year by most standards, in his last four games, he had all of one interception (to Kony Ealy of all people).  A offense turning the ball over, especially on their own side of the field, makes a great defense look average, and a good defense look bad.  IMO, if we can cut down the turnovers, we can get 11 or 12 wins this year, even if the defense doesn't force many.  

 

[juliosantos]

we are like the denver d that beat us but our offense should be much better i honestly dont get how we downgraded 

[Salisburysean98]

12 hours ago, Joe the Show said:

I believe we are one defensive playmaker short of being a truly great defense.  Another rock solid corner to play opposite Bradberry, or a fast young DE to take the pass rush to the next level would do the trick.  This assumes everyone else stays healthy of course.  The way this offense goes stagnant at times, the defense as currently built won't be able to carry them thru a playoff run.  Too many good QBs out there.

I think a baller at Safety is what we need. An Earl Thomas, ball hawk. We already don't give up many big plays anyway so we'll let the linebackers do the talking with the big hits. We need someone Eric Berry or Earl Thomas type. Take it from them and score. Also should look for a stud DE as well. 

[KendrickPanther]

This defense couldnt win three of our games so far. Sure they could win the Super Bowl.... They could get us to the playoffs. Or they could not...

[Hoenheim]

34 minutes ago, Salisburysean98 said:

I think a baller at Safety is what we need. An Earl Thomas, ball hawk. We already don't give up many big plays anyway so we'll let the linebackers do the talking with the big hits. We need someone Eric Berry or Earl Thomas type. Take it from them and score. Also should look for a stud DE as well. 

which is why our top 2 draft needs for next year are DE and Saftey 

[Dragoon11]

15 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

Probably. But the offense is not playoff caliber so your point is moot.

Good point, but what we have to hope for is that by the end of season they've found something and peak at the right time.....Heck even the defense, which is a scary (fun for us) thought.

[pantherj]

We can win a SB with this defense if we play terrible teams in the playoffs.

[Dragoon11]

13 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Elite QBs in good offensive systems slice up defenses. Stafford threw for 400+ against the Steelers last night. 

And they were 0 for 6 in red zone.....Steelers D held them to 15 points. Have to "bend, don't break" with those teams, then clamp down in red zone. Steelers D was superb in red zone.

 

[Dragoon11]

13 hours ago, thefuzz said:

Can it?  Sure.

Will it?  Not likely.

We would have to play almost mistake free on offense, and probably get multiple turnovers per game, while having Special Teams continually flip the field....oh, and play aggressively for 4 quarters, while allowing no big plays.

If we could consistently run the ball...maybe.  If we could occasionally hit a big/splash play on offense...maybe.  

You know, special teams is something you just don't see many teams focus on anymore, which is a shame. With the way our offense is struggling, maybe Panthers should put more emphasis on ST......Could make the difference the Panthers need.

 

[LinvilleGorge]

12 minutes ago, Dragoon11 said:

And they were 0 for 6 in red zone.....Steelers D held them to 15 points. Have to "bend, don't break" with those teams, then clamp down in red zone. Steelers D was superb in red zone.

 

Yep, at the end of the day yards without points don't mean a great deal. 

Just win. 

[Pantha-kun]

Our defense allowed alot of points against the good offenses and good to great QBs we played. Only way we win a SB with this team , is if we suddenly find a running game , Samuel transforms overnight into a great deep threat, and Cam throws much more accuartely, and our oline stops sucking. And Shula stops using McCaffrey up the gut (which is a waste of a playcall) and stops using Stewart on screens and tosses. I honestly think Samuel is the key , he's by far the fasest and most elusive player we have , but I don't think he has enough experience and toughness , and its yet a polished enough WR . We're missing Ted Ginn and the 2015 run game dearly.