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[Snake]

8 hours ago, PrimeTimeHeel said:

What are you talking about? 

Defenses don't "declare" like that?

A defense has to choose to use a normal package or a nickle or dime package. 

A defense has to choose to drop S's back or put them in the box. 

A defense has to choose to be base aligned or spread out and man align. 

As for oline, this is much more simpler. Straight ahead body on body, no pulling etc less defenders to worry about. 

Sorry, but not buying these excuses. 

Football is football. 

Lmfao cover 3,  cover 1 robber, cover 3 fire, cover two CB dog, and I could go on. All of these formations/plays give you the advantage of being able to mask coverage. Actually it's why Dom Capers zone blitz scheme was so frustrating. You couldn't just put a hat on a hat. It's why you can't just run a QB out there with two audibles and it work. Good offenseses get the defense off balance and take advantage of a poor play call and vice a versa. Not just change the base call. 

[PrimeTimeHeel]

1 hour ago, Snake said:

Lmfao cover 3,  cover 1 robber, cover 3 fire, cover two CB dog, and I could go on. All of these formations/plays give you the advantage of being able to mask coverage. Actually it's why Dom Capers zone blitz scheme was so frustrating. You couldn't just put a hat on a hat. It's why you can't just run a QB out there with two audibles and it work. Good offenseses get the defense off balance and take advantage of a poor play call and vice a versa. Not just change the base call. 

We are talking about two different things. 

Yes a D can mask their coverage ie zone/man/bitlz.

A D can not mask whether they are in nickle or base package (unless you are trying to claim players switch jerseys or some magic is going on)

A D can not mask how many players are in the box, unless you are trying to claim teams have discovered invisible super power and cloning image technique. 

A D can not mask whether they are base aligned or man aligned. 

A D can not mask whether they are playing press or not.

There are many things a D simply can not hide or mask. 

[ok2h8pep]

Serious question ... why isn't Samuel a 'deep threat' receiver?  His 40 time was better than TY Hilton's and only 0.03 seconds slower than Ted Ginn's.  Surely he can catch 'as well' as Ginn?  Is it just a matter of establishing his credentials with a few deep completions?

Also, what happened to the 2015 Cam that would hard count the defense one or two times per game and audible out of  plays if the defense had an obvious tell.  I mean if I can see the that the safety is going to blitz from my living room couch with 10 seconds before the snap why can't Cam?  It's almost like he is refusing to change the play call to spite Shula.  Of course that's on those rare occasions when we don't snap the ball in the last 2 seconds on the play clock (and I think I just  answered my own question).

[PrimeTimeHeel]

2 hours ago, ok2h8pep said:

Serious question ... why isn't Samuel a 'deep threat' receiver?  His 40 time was better than TY Hilton's and only 0.03 seconds slower than Ted Ginn's.  Surely he can catch 'as well' as Ginn?  Is it just a matter of establishing his credentials with a few deep completions?

Also, what happened to the 2015 Cam that would hard count the defense one or two times per game and audible out of  plays if the defense had an obvious tell.  I mean if I can see the that the safety is going to blitz from my living room couch with 10 seconds before the snap why can't Cam?  It's almost like he is refusing to change the play call to spite Shula.  Of course that's on those rare occasions when we don't snap the ball in the last 2 seconds on the play clock (and I think I just  answered my own question).

Because Shula doesn't want to use him in such capacity. 

Shula prefers to send Funch and KB deep. 

Outside of KB, Funch, and TE we don't really use much other receivers. 

Excluding CMC out of the back field. 

[Peppers90 NC]

11 hours ago, Snake said:

You do realize not even the Packers with rodgers or the Pats with Brady do this? Defenses at least good ones audible or mask there coverage. You might have two audibles you use but thats it. It's why good OCs are hard to find because if it was as easy as just having a QB audible a OC wouldn't be important. Play call choices are the life blood of any coordinator and how successful you are at that is the difference between Jeff Davidson and Shaun Payton. 

we're not talking about coverage we are talking about personnel.

[Peppers90 NC]

2 hours ago, ok2h8pep said:

Serious question ... why isn't Samuel a 'deep threat' receiver?  His 40 time was better than TY Hilton's and only 0.03 seconds slower than Ted Ginn's.  Surely he can catch 'as well' as Ginn?  Is it just a matter of establishing his credentials with a few deep completions?

straight line speed doesn't make someone a deep threat on it's own

[Snake]

36 minutes ago, Peppers90 NC said:

we're not talking about coverage we are talking about personnel.

Originally it was about coverage and matching a play to the defense. If we're talking personnel well that's play calling and just having talent. Like how the Cowboys ran all over the NFL two years ago because there line was superb. This team doesn't have the talent to run power football even if teams were not stacking the box. It's a spread offense skill set with Oline being better at pass blocks than run. We'll unless your Matt Kalil and then you suck at both. The Panthers have talent it's just being used in a square peg round hole situation. 

[Peppers90 NC]

2 minutes ago, Snake said:

Originally it was about coverage and matching a play to the defense. If we're talking personnel well that's play calling and just having talent. Like how the Cowboys ran all over the NFL two years ago because there line was superb. This team doesn't have the talent to run power football even if teams were not stacking the box. It's a spread offense skill set with Oline being better at pass blocks than run. We'll unless your Matt Kalil and then you suck at both. The Panthers have talent it's just being used in a square peg round hole situation. 

the quote you quoted which I quoted you, was always about personnel, before a coverage is even shown. i could insert some jerk comment like, "you do realize..." but it's obvious you dont.

[Snake]

3 hours ago, Peppers90 NC said:

the quote you quoted which I quoted you, was always about personnel, before a coverage is even shown. i could insert some jerk comment like, "you do realize..." but it's obvious you dont.

This topic was about a system not personnel. Quite frankly your rashional is even more inadequate then. It's not simply as easy as saying hey let's line up our 5 WRs against there 4-3 base. You can't audible to 5 WRs either. Like I said this isn't madden.