John Fox's record against >.500 teams: Below Average

[frash.exe]

When comparing current head coaches who've coached on the same team longer than 16 games, or one NFL regular season here's how the W/L record ranks out. Keep in mind three long tenured and highly successful HCs, Mike Holmgren, Mike Shanahan and Tony Dungy retired just last season and I didn't include them. Even without those heavy hitters, Fox still looks lukewarm compared to the rest of the league. This includes any playoff games played. Of course this isn't the sole metric you should use when evaluating a head coach, but at the very least it does give you an idea of how well they prepare their team against good competition.

60.5%-Bill Belichick (52-34)

50%-Mike Tomlin (9-9)

47.6%-Sean Payton (10-11)

44.4%-Mike Smith (4-5)

42.2%-Tom Coughlin (19-26)

42%-Andy Reid (34-47)

41.7%-John Harbaugh (5-7)

41.2%-Wade Phillips (7-10)

40%-Jim Zorn (4-6)

39.4%-Lovie Smith (13-20)

38.1%-Jeff Fisher (40-65)

37.5%-Jack Del Rio (18-30)

---------36.5%------LEAGUE AVERAGE-----------

36.4%-Brad Childress (8-14)

35.3%-Norv Turner (6-11)

34.5%-John Fox (20-38)

33.3%-Ken Whisenhunt (9-18)

32%-Mike McCarthy (8-17)

29.6%-Marvin Lewis (14-34-1)

24%-Gary Kubiak (6-19)

22.2%-Tom Cable (2-7)

22.2%-Tony Sparano (2-7)

8%-Dick Jauron (2-23)

[ItsNotGonnaBeAlright]

With the exception of Belichick, none of them have a winning record in this category. Interesting to note.

[King Taharqa]

Belichick is a BEAST.

[natty]

Statistically speaking - this is absolutely worthless data.

[frash.exe]

Statistically speaking - this is absolutely worthless data.

Well I just LOVE walking into a thread and disagreeing with the OP in one sentence with little or no counter point at all and expect people to agree with me

/natty

[Jangler]

Well I just LOVE walking into a thread and disagreeing with the OP in one sentence with little or no counter point at all and expect people to agree with me

/natty

Make it about Obama and he would have loved it. :seeya:

[Mother Grabber]

Fox is below Norv Turner?!? Shoot yourself now...

[E CaT PanTHer]

looking on the bright side, John Fox is 4th overall in wins. I'm just saying.

[Cyberjag]

Obviously we need to fire Fox right now. Until we get a coach who can go 4-12 or 3-13 we'll never get a great quarterback.

[PantherBrew]

Well, if he sucks this bad against below average teams, and overall he has a winning record. I havent looked up stats, but he must absolotly own the teams with a record over .500. Which, I would believe to be more important as far as playoff positioning and tiebreakers.

Also, does this data take into account the teams final record that season, or the record of the teams when we played them. For ex. If you play a team week three that is 1-2 and lose does that count as the team being a below .500 team even if that team ended up being 11-5?

[Cyberjag]

Well, if he sucks this bad against below average teams, and overall he has a winning record. I havent looked up stats, but he must absolotly own, the teams with a record over .500. Which, I would believe to be more important as far as playoff positioning and tiebreakers.

Also, does this data take into account the teams final record that season, or the record of the teams when we played them. For ex. If you play a team week three that is 1-2 and lose does that count as the team being a below .500 team even if that team ended up being 11-5?

Let's not get mired down in stats, ok? This thread is about how Fox sucks, and only stats that support that argument will be listened to.

[PantherBrew]

Let's not get mired down in stats, ok? This thread is about how Fox sucks, and only stats that support that argument will be listened to.

Haha, RB usually has a compelling argument for most of his threads. Whether or not I agree with him, I can usually appreciate his thread. But this is not some of his best work. No offense, RB :lurk5:

[PanthersFanNY]

Hahahahaha wow Jauron sucks ass.

[natty]

Well I just LOVE walking into a thread and disagreeing with the OP in one sentence with little or no counter point at all and expect people to agree with me

/natty

Well it was 2 in the morning and I was going to bed, sorry I didn't write you a dissertation.

Record against >.500 teams can be taken different ways - you don't say which. >.500 at the time they play? Or >.500 over the season? I assume the former, which means it's entirely based on who the teams played before them. That might carry some weight if you only take data from the 2nd half of seasons but to count games played in week 2 means nothing. The data looks like it could mean something because Belichick, who we all know is an outstanding coach, is at the top and assume the 'heavy-hitters' you mention are there too. But it really doesn't mean much at all. Who cares what a team's record is during the season? All that matters is what it is in the end.