Stats - Cam and CMC

[imminent rogaine]

44 minutes ago, The Righteous Troll said:

See that's the thing. Catching a ball behind the line of scrimmage your already in the red. Like the one handed.catch was nice or whatever but he went nowhere because he was really just getting back to.the LOS and only got one or two yards.....not 4 or 5 yards. Plus the box is already stacked because teams want to get at Cam so the pass could be batted or the WRs just don't fight for.the ball so the pass will be incomplete.

 

Cheifs are in the playoffs every year because they have been drafting solid players. Fun fact Gettleman took Vernon Butler or Chris.Jones

Why is it a must that he catches the ball behind the LOS? He actually runs routes beyond the LOS not just screens. He is averaging 7+ YPcatch...not 1 or 2. That is 7+ beyond the LOS.  Since these relatively high percentage plays, why does it matter if it is a run or a pass? We would be cumming buckets if someone averaged 7+ yds per carry.

[The Righteous Troll]

3 hours ago, xav8tor said:

Like I've said, CMC is Edelman 2.0. The problem is that Josh McD isn't the one calling plays.

Edelman and McDaniels is overrated...Belicheat can make just anybody work in that system. Wes Welker, Troy Brown, Deion Branch...B

3 hours ago, ncsfinest21 said:

The thing about CMC is I dont see the hype. He does provide Cam some underneath passes but he isnt getting rac. I dont see the shiftyness they were talking about. I dont see the big play potential he was suppose to bring. Granted its his rookie year. Also he is costing us valuable yard on special teams by not far catching the ball at the 40 and letting it bounce to the 15. He isnt playing up to his potential and is playing hesitant I guess due to his size.

It kind of like  Reggie Bush situation  except Bush was doing alittle more his rookie season and had a comeptent HC/OC...McCaffery seems more like a Tavon Austin. Stanford has a solid run system just look at McCaffery's replacement breaking records...it was the system he was in more than his actual running back skills hence why for his pro day he just drills from the slot and outside. I just don't think he is used to the NFL speed and he was a massive reach at 8th overall. I think he can play in the NFL but a opportunity to trade and get a true running back along with better picks. Picking a "running back" 8th overall and having your MVP Quarterback that is coming off of shoulder surgery as the leading rusher this many weeks into the season is completely unacceptable 

[The Righteous Troll]

3 minutes ago, imminent rogaine said:

Why is it a must that he catches the ball behind the LOS? He actually runs routes beyond the LOS not just screens. He is averaging 7+ YPcatch...not 1 or 2. That is 7+ beyond the LOS.  Since these relatively high percentage plays, why does it matter if it is a run or a pass? We would be cumming buckets if someone averaged 7+ yds per carry.

Where did I say it was a must he catch the ball behind the LOS? Most of the time McCaffery is line up next to Cam in the backfield and he's not out wide or in the slot enough.And it matters if it's a run or a pass because you need to run to set up the pass...that's when the Panthers are at their best and a big reason why most of the time you have to settle for field goals in the redzone. Get Arrmah in there at FB and punch them in the mouth

[imminent rogaine]

7 minutes ago, The Righteous Troll said:

.. because you need to run to set up the pass...

no, you dont.

[The Righteous Troll]

6 minutes ago, imminent rogaine said:

no, you dont.

 

If you want to win you do. Running at the defense and getting 7 yards a carry will have defenders gassed with their hands on their hip. A pass first offense that doesn't keep running the ball throws INTs and the one yard line or blow a 28-3 lead...in the Super Bowl

[xav8tor]

36 minutes ago, The Righteous Troll said:

Belicheat can make just anybody work in that system. 

Well, at least you acknowledged the fact that somebody up there is good at what they do.

[tiger7_88]

14 hours ago, ClawOn said:

Just some facts here.

 

14 hours ago, ClawOn said:

1. In the past two seasons,  Cam's 5.32 yards per attempt is worse than Bortles (5.49).

 

I don't where you are getting your "facts" from, but they are WAY wrong.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/N/NewtCa00.htm

In 2016, Cam had 3509 passing yards on 510 passing attempts.  That's 6.9 yards per attempt.

So far this year, Cam has 1687 passing yards on 231 passing attempts.  That's 7.3 ypa.

Those 2 seasons combined give you 5196 passing yards on 741 passing attempts = 7.0 ypa.

It might behoove you, if you actually want to criticize Cam, to use an *actual* fact instead of a fantasy fact you've made up in your head.

[The Righteous Troll]

2 hours ago, xav8tor said:

Well, at least you acknowledged the fact that somebody up there is good at what they do.

Belicheat will do anything to win and I respect that, he wants football players not community figures. There is a reason Charlie Weis, Josh McDaniels,Eric Mangini, Mike Vrabel and to a less extent Bill O' Brian all have not had the same success..I give Romeo Cornell a slight pass because still can coach the hell out of a defense.

[xav8tor]

2 minutes ago, The Righteous Troll said:

Belicheat will do anything to win and I respect that, he wants football players not community figures. There is a reason Charlie Weis, Josh McDaniels,Eric Mangini, Mike Vrabel and to a less extent Bill O' Brian all have not had the same success..I give Romeo Cornell a slight pass because still can coach the hell out of a defense.

I know that we can't get the whole package in one person (brains, attitude, discipline etc.), but right now, I'd take his degree of just one of those here, then let him hire guys with the rest, because I'm not seeing it right now.

[The Righteous Troll]

6 minutes ago, xav8tor said:

I know that we can't get the whole package in one person (brains, attitude, discipline etc.), but right now, I'd take his degree of just one of those here, then let him hire guys with the rest, because I'm not seeing it right now.

The next coach of the Carolina Panthers should not come from the New Engalnd Patriots staff if that is what your getting at.

[xav8tor]

3 minutes ago, The Righteous Troll said:

The next coach of the Carolina Panthers should not come from the New Engalnd Patriots staff if that is what your getting at.

Nope. Trust me, if I am "getting at" something, rarely is it necessary to read between the lines.

[tiger7_88]

21 hours ago, tiger7_88 said:

 

 

I don't where you are getting your "facts" from, but they are WAY wrong.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/N/NewtCa00.htm

In 2016, Cam had 3509 passing yards on 510 passing attempts.  That's 6.9 yards per attempt.

So far this year, Cam has 1687 passing yards on 231 passing attempts.  That's 7.3 ypa.

Those 2 seasons combined give you 5196 passing yards on 741 passing attempts = 7.0 ypa.

It might behoove you, if you actually want to criticize Cam, to use an *actual* fact instead of a fantasy fact you've made up in your head.

Golly, I made this response 21 hours ago and ol' ClawOn seems to have *poof* disappeared... lol.