I Have No More Excuses for Christian McCaffrey

[electro's horse]

14 minutes ago, grimesgoat said:

We got in field goal range 5-6 times, we just kept giving the damn ball away.  The offense wasn't pretty, but we moved the chains.

And yes it could be worse.  Cleveland had 3 first round picks including the number one overall and they are 0-7.  If you are intent on being miserable, just go root for them.

Oh okay so top ten pick for 5 field goal attempts. That 1949 nfl championship is ours. Watch out Brooklyn Mud Dogs!

lol we’re better Cleveland. The hand job from the sister to complete this pitiful argument. 

[uncfan888]

My God you're fugin annoying. We get it. You hate McCaffrey

[Borat]

1 hour ago, electro's horse said:

Even if you add up his rushing, receiving, returns, blocks, cookies sold at the bake sale, whatever... 

it’s not like it’s helped the team at all. He’s fuging Jason capel out there.

“Well he leads the team in receptions!” Yeah that’s probably a symptom of how bad the offense is, not a mark for how good cmc is at getting two yards a catch. 

“Well without him it would be worse.” Worse than three points against the bears? You’re happy with that from a top ten pick? With his 25 touches a game we got into field goal range once?

[grimesgoat]

47 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

Dude you’re trying to get me to say a magical number so you can find other good players and compare their rookie numbers as if that proves a goddamn thing. For every player that struggled their rookie year and blossomed into something else there are dozens who looked exactly like what they were: not cut out for the league. 

lol - I just wanted a number so at the end of the season you could say either a. 'I told you so' or b. 'my bad, I was wrong.  He actually met my expectations'.

I hope you don't do performance reviews in your job...

• Electro: "Its time for your annual review.  We are disappointed in your performance.  You aren't good enough at your job."
• Employee: "But I just got here 2 months ago.  I'm still learning".  
• Electro: "Yeah, but you're not as tall as some of the other guys.  And the ideal candidate would weigh 10 more pounds and there is no way you could ever add that much weight in a year or two.  Plus your GPA seems a little high coming out of college.  You graduated with too many rewards.  I just have a feeling you have peaked already.  I wish we would have hired someone else."
• Employee:  "Well thanks for the feedback.  By the way, what are my goals for my first year here?"
• Electro: "I don't know.  I'll let you know at the end of the year. "

[ClawOn]

Pure speculation: while understanding NFL defenses are another level of speed, I just don't see the burst he showed in college. Maybe some kind of nagging injury? 

[electro's horse]

2 minutes ago, ClawOn said:

Pure speculation: while understanding NFL defenses are another level of speed, I just don't see the burst he showed in college. Maybe some kind of nagging injury? 

its just perception. everyone around him is faster so he looks slower. 

[ClawOn]

20 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

its just perception. everyone around him is faster so he looks slower. 

Yea maybe. Teams like USC had pretty damn good athletes that he made look silly.  Look I'm a fan but could I be wrong?  Absolutely. 

[Chairman Wow]

If McCaffery is a bust as a running back, then Stewart is a bust as a running back...in fact, doubly so because Stewart has had over twice as many attempts. Despite this, Stewart has a "long" of 17, while McCaffery has a "long" of 11.  The average per carry is basically a wash at this point.

Meanwhile, McCaffery is 2nd in the NFL in yard after catch, despite constantly having to adjust to poorly thrown passes. And we are not talking long passes, either. Short passes are an adventure when they are thrown by Cam Newton.

On throws of 1-10 yards, Newton is completing 59% of his passes with 1TD and 3 INT. 

[electro's horse]

2 minutes ago, Chairman Wow said:

If McCaffery is a bust as a running back, then Stewart is a bust as a running back...in fact, doubly so because Stewart has had over twice as many attempts. Despite this, Stewart has a "long" of 17, while McCaffery has a "long" of 11.  The average per carry is basically a wash at this point

Or maybe cmc is as good as an over the hill running back north of thirty?

[Chairman Wow]

3 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

Or maybe cmc is as good as an over the hill running back north of thirty?

I think at this point he is probably as good a pure running back as Stewart and about 1000x better a receiver. 

By the way, while CmC has not been spectacular as a punt returner, his numbers are virtually identical to Ginn's this season...middle of the pack, but very, very small sample size. Definitely not "terrible".

[Borat]

58 minutes ago, Chairman Wow said:

I think at this point he is probably as good a pure running back as Stewart and about 1000x better a receiver. 

By the way, while CmC has not been spectacular as a punt returner, his numbers are virtually identical to Ginn's this season...middle of the pack, but very, very small sample size. Definitely not "terrible".

Being "as good a pure running back" as a guy in his 10th season, with 1600 carries to his name, is hardly a compliment. I'm assuming that you're talking about current day comparision, of course, as Stewart was a freakin' Mack Truck when he came out of college. 

And for what it's worth, Stewart has better career Y/R than McCaffrey, too. 

[SZ James (banned)]

19 hours ago, Saca312 said:

Y'all realize this offense would literally die and flop winless if we didn't have mccaffrey and what he does to defenses. 

We spent a top ten pick on a decoy. Like if we drafted Peppers to just play WR.

[Chairman Wow]

18 minutes ago, Borat said:

Being "as good a pure running back" as a guy in his 10th season, with 1600 carries to his name, is hardly a compliment. I'm assuming that you're talking about current day comparision, of course, as Stewart was a freakin' Mack Truck when he came out of college. 

And for what it's worth, Stewart has better career Y/R than McCaffrey, too. 

Stewart is still a plus running back, given a little space. McCaffery is going to be a plus running back, given a little space.

The receiver comparison is ludicrous. Stewart has averaged 16 receptions per season for his career.

McCaffery has 44 receptions in his first 7 games. 

 

[Borat]

5 minutes ago, Chairman Wow said:

Stewart is still a plus running back, given a little space. McCaffery is going to be a plus running back, given a little space.

The receiver comparison is ludicrous. Stewart has averaged 16 receptions per season for his career.

McCaffery has 44 receptions in his first 7 games. 

 

That's well and good that you believe that, but there isn't a single stat backing your conjecture up. Even the normalizing (http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/rb) stats have them near the bottom of the pile in terms of rushing production. Difference between the two is that Stewart has given you a decade of excellent service, whereas the likelihood of McCaffrey doing the same seems slight. 

As for the receiving stats, the idea was not the juxtapose the two, but to make the point that McCaffrey isn't exactly lighting the world on fire, from a per play standpoint, in the receiving game either.