Are the Panthers the next Chargers?

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4 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

There are some distinct differences to how the teams are run, but in essence, you could be onto something.  The Chargers wasted a HOF caliber QB in Rivers by being cheap, and mismanaged.

We are wasting a HOF caliber QB's career by continuing to trot out below average coaches...not necessarily teams.

 

The Chargers allowed a glut of talent to leave after Rivers' first couple years there, and then started drafting poorly...they seem to be a bit better now, but still not great.  

IMO Carolina has had talent all through Cam's career, we just haven't had the coaching to use the talent effectively.

I agree. As another poster said, their failures were a little more based on the Playoffs but you get the gist. Former League MVP at QB, former Defensive POY at MLB, former Heisman Winner at RB (granted that doesn't always translate), Pro Bowlers at several other positions. Seems like we should be getting more out of this core than just 2015.

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1 minute ago, Cam El said:

I agree. As another poster said, their failures were a little more based on the Playoffs but you get the gist. Former League MVP at QB, former Defensive POY at MLB, former Heisman Winner at RB (granted that doesn't always translate), Pro Bowlers at several other positions. Seems like we should be getting more out of this core than just 2015.

The first thing people will reach to is our poor offensive line during Cam's career, but that is a league wide epidemic right now.  There are very few good/great offensive lines, and the ones that look that way one year, seem to regress the next.

However, we have had talent here, great talent...but no one to effectively manage said talent.

[Hoenheim]

Our franchise won't change until we get a different owner who takes the team in a completely different direction. 

[Chaos]

So, a matter of time before the Panthers relocate as well?

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21 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

The first thing people will reach to is our poor offensive line during Cam's career, but that is a league wide epidemic right now.  There are very few good/great offensive lines, and the ones that look that way one year, seem to regress the next.

However, we have had talent here, great talent...but no one to effectively manage said talent.

Glad you pointed that out. People keep bashing Getty for ignoring the OLine. Not like he could run to 7-11 and get Pro Bowl LT.

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47 minutes ago, Cam El said:

Glad you pointed that out. People keep bashing Getty for ignoring the OLine. Not like he could run to 7-11 and get Pro Bowl LT.

It seemed like he DID push out Gross though.   Gross was like a top 5 LT his last year and decided to retire.   I don't think we made enough effort to keep him around at least a few more years.