Are the Panthers the next Chargers?

[Toker Smurf]

Everyone knew that they had a talented roster: Tomlinson, Rivers, Sproles, Gates, VJax, Merrimen, Weddle, Cromartie. Everyone also knew that AJ Smith and Norv Turner needed to go by 2010 (if not sooner), yet they weren't fired until 2012. The Chargers still haven't recovered. Even with that, the Chargers only had two losing seasons under AJ Smith, his first and his last. Hurney had 5 losing seasons and Rivera has already had 4. Is JR going to let Hurney and Rivera waste our current core group of players and ruin the franchise for the next decade?

[Mr. Scot]

The same JR who gave Marty Hurney eleven years before? 

[electro's horse]

9 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

The same JR who gave Marty Hurney eleven years before? 

Why the past tense?

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, electro's horse said:

Why the past tense?

Valid point, sadly. 

[Proudiddy]

No.  At one point, the Chargers fired a very successful, winning coach (Schottenheimer) following a 14-2 season and playoff appearance.  We've only had 4 coaches and 3 GMs over 22 years, and still havent had back to back winning seasons, because we don't expect any more.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

42 minutes ago, Cam El said:

Is JR going to let Hurney and Rivera waste our current core group of players and ruin the franchise for the next decade?

yeah

[NeedSumD]

If you mean changing coaching staffs every couple years or every time your QB has a bad game. No not yet but give it time. I mean people are wanting Norv Turner as our OC, I mean that worked for the Chargers.

 

1TD - 8ints in 3 losses, can you believe the coaching

[KillaCamNewton]

i was actually thinking the same thing yesterday

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

5 minutes ago, NeedSumD said:

If you mean changing coaching staffs every couple years or every time your QB has a bad game. No not yet but give it time. I mean people are wanting Norv Turner as our OC, I mean that worked for the Chargers.

 

1TD - 8ints in 3 losses, can you believe the coaching

 

[CRA]

we are more like the poor man's east coast version of them. 

those older Charger teams were much better and consistent.  They disappointed more come post season time.   

[Snake]

It's sad to say but this team might benefit more in the long run if they totally collapse. It would send a message to JR that he made a mistake with David and not firing Hurney. Any success this year translates to the coaching staff/GM staying at least two more years. 

[ickmule]

This franchise is a train wreck.....That is all I know. 

 

[thefuzz]

2 hours ago, Cam El said:

Everyone knew that they had a talented roster: Tomlinson, Rivers, Sproles, Gates, VJax, Merrimen, Weddle, Cromartie. Everyone also knew that AJ Smith and Norv Turner needed to go by 2010 (if not sooner), yet they weren't fired until 2012. The Chargers still haven't recovered. Even with that, the Chargers only had two losing seasons under AJ Smith, his first and his last. Hurney had 5 losing seasons and Rivera has already had 4. Is JR going to let Hurney and Rivera waste our current core group of players and ruin the franchise for the next decade?

There are some distinct differences to how the teams are run, but in essence, you could be onto something.  The Chargers wasted a HOF caliber QB in Rivers by being cheap, and mismanaged.

We are wasting a HOF caliber QB's career by continuing to trot out below average coaches...not necessarily teams.

 

The Chargers allowed a glut of talent to leave after Rivers' first couple years there, and then started drafting poorly...they seem to be a bit better now, but still not great.  

IMO Carolina has had talent all through Cam's career, we just haven't had the coaching to use the talent effectively.

[Panthers Fanatic]

This is a pretty good comparison, unfortunately. Maybe Rivera is subconsciously tapping into his Charger roots, while JR and Spanos are on par with each other. Smh