Just something I wanted to say about our offense

[JakeDel5674]

23 minutes ago, Saca312 said:

 

Honestly, here's a solid bet for you.  If the Defense we're facing doesn't have a good front four, ALA the Falcons (besides Vic Beasley), we should be alright to win.  

[Ricky Spanish]

10 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I'll say what I've said elsewhere. Firing Shula doesn't go far enough. Rivera has too many issues of his own. 

If I were to try and look into the future right now though: Given that Rivera blames the players for everything that goes wrong I'd expect Shula will be retained and Rivera and Hurney will overhaul the roster (likely getting rid of a lot of Gettleman guys) to their liking.

And that'll probably go pretty much like you'd expect. 

I don't disagree. I think Rivera has overstayed his welcome as well. 

[JakeDel5674]

6 minutes ago, Saca312 said:

Yes.

One of our biggest issues has been situational analysis and time management. In fact, we're definitely the worst in the league at that. No awareness from anybody with playcalls, actions, or even attitude.

No discipline. No one stepping up to pump everyone back up. Nothing.

We need a new HC before it's too late.

I got some bad news for you, it's already too late.  Look at the ages besides Luke, Bradberry, and Coleman on Defense.  We're not getting any younger man.  

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, Cracka McNasty said:

I don't disagree. I think Rivera has overstayed his welcome as well. 

You wanna watch Hurney and Rivera remake the roster? 

[arbnranger]

Make no mistake, we will get better. We will adjust and have some great games. Some games that will blow your mind at how easy we scored and demolished our opponent even though we weren’t expecting it. 

Thats the conundrum. We get hope every now and again and put on a masterclass performance. We just don’t do it when we should. When you think the odds are in our favor and we “should” perform, we lay an egg. 

Inconsistent, man. 

Well, let me say we are consistently inconsistent. Always have been. Mediocre, middle of the road franchise record. 

Now, I will say it’s nice not to be a consistent bottom feeder. That’s true. Some franchises suffer the lowest of lows. We are as up and down as you can get . 

We have potential. We just can’t seem to break through that wall. Coach/talent/philosophy/GM/OC.. etc 

Would be nice to get over the hump. 

[Ricky Spanish]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

You wanna watch Hurney and Rivera remake the roster? 

I chose to ignore that part of your post because I need to sleep tonight, I have work in the morning. 

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, Cracka McNasty said:

I chose to ignore that part of your post because I need to sleep tonight, I have work in the morning. 

I understand. 

[Hallin'AllDaeDae]

22 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Shula has to be fired after this. All hope is lost if he isn't. I'm almost certain all hope is lost. 

You wouldn't want to give the offense, you know, somebody with any at all Yards After Catch ability first ? Cause you know, the only thing we've seen on YAC is Ed Dickson

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, arbnranger said:

Make no mistake, we will get better. We will adjust and have some great games. Some games that will blow your mind at how easy we scored and demolished our opponent even though we weren’t expecting it. 

Thats the conundrum. We get hope every now and again and put on a masterclass performance. We just don’t do it when we should. When you think the odds are in our favor and we “should” perform, we lay an egg. 

Inconsistent, man. 

Well, let me say we are consistently inconsistent. Always have been. Mediocre, middle of the road franchise record. 

Now, I will say it’s nice not to be a consistent bottom feeder. That’s true. Some franchises suffer the lowest of lows. We are as up and down as you can get . 

We have potential. We just can’t seem to break through that wall. Coach/talent/philosophy/GM/OC.. etc 

Would be nice to get over the hump. 

We had eleven years of "just good enough to avoid any major changes" (at least by Jerry Richardson's standards) before. 

Unfortunately, that's this team's MO. 

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, Hallin'AllDaeDae said:

You wouldn't want to give the offense, you know, somebody with any at all Yards After Catch ability first ? Cause you know, the only thing we've seen on YAC is Ed Dickson

That's why CMC and Samuel were drafted. We gave him a top 10 pick and a 2nd rounder for that exact purpose. 

[Hallin'AllDaeDae]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

That's why CMC and Samuel were drafted. We gave him a top 10 pick and a 2nd rounder for that exact purpose. 

Yep, and turns out they both fugin suck. To this point.

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, Hallin'AllDaeDae said:

Yep, and turns out they both fugin suck. To this point.

Do they suck or have they not been coached properly and not been put in position to succeed? 

I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt at this point because I've long since decided that Mike Shula is fuging trash. 

[Ricky Spanish]

22 minutes ago, Hallin'AllDaeDae said:

You wouldn't want to give the offense, you know, somebody with any at all Yards After Catch ability first ? Cause you know, the only thing we've seen on YAC is Ed Dickson

OK, first things first, Speed ≠ Yac. If that were the case then Jacoby Ford, Darrius Heyward-Bey, and Tavon Austin would be All-pro world beaters.

Secondly, McCaffery is second in the league in YAC... So, we do have someone who is getting that Yards after Catch that you are talking about.

But I will agree, we do not get YAC from anyone else on the team, and that has more to do with our offensive scheme rather than the players on the field.

I'm sure someone else like @Saca312 could do a better job of explaining it, but the offensive scheme we run does not promote YAC in the routes our receivers run. We run a lot of outs and a lot of comebacks deep down the field. A lot of our offense is built on getting chunk yards and moving the chains. We very rarely run quick slants, which is a travesty because I think our receivers have the ability to produce in such a way. When KB runs a slant, it takes at least two guys to bring him down. As soon as he gets a full head of steam it's like trying to tackle a DE. Look up highlights of Benjamin running slants and watch people bounce off him. It's fantastic. But we don't do that often because it's not the way our offense is built. Every long TD we get, it's usually all air yards where the receiver tracks a bomb from Cam. The plays are not built to get guys open in space with the ball in their hand. 

With CMC and Samuel, we were supposed to see more YAC and we have, but it has been all CMC and no one else. Shula has not implemented that kind of thinking into routes run for anyone else it seems, and that's kind of crappy. 

So while I agree with your overall sentiment of wanting to see more YAC, getting the ball into our playmakers hands more often and seeing what they can do, I disagree that we don't have the personnel for it. 

[Khyber53]

Folks, I can't even defend Shula at this point. I mean, nah, I got nothing. 

And honestly, if RR doesn't do the Old Yeller thing and take Shula out behind the shed, then I can't even defend RR anymore.

And I can't defend Cam anymore either. 

Shula's gotta go, Ron's gotta do it, and Cam has to at least make it looks like he wants to win after the mid-point of the second quarter.