Replay Officials

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, toldozer said:

It did matter.  Cost us a time out.  Imo they should always call touchdown when there is any question.  Then neither team has to waste a challenge and potential timeout.

True. Forgot we had to initiate that challenge. Definitely agree that the refs should err on the side of the automatically reviewed call or the call that is challengable when there's any doubt. Think it may have been a TD, call it a TD. Not sure if that QB's arm was coming forward, call it a fumble.

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, Darth Biscuit said:

poo watch the video...

TD

[toldozer]

He was a yard in before his toe touched grass.

[Popsickle]

3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

TD

Can't be sure with those pics...

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, Popsickle said:

Can't be sure with those pics...

you probably thought the glove legitimately did not fit too

[Darth Biscuit]

1 minute ago, Popsickle said:

Can't be sure with those pics...

You're just being obtuse.

Watch the video.  It is utterly clear that he's almost to his elbow across the goal line when that toe touches.

[KillerKat]

The NFL pushes a narrative hidden behind the "rulebook".  The refs can choose what to call or not to call based on who the league wants to win. 

[LinvilleGorge]

Just look at the three pics that have been posted. Piece them together. It's impossible to argue that it's NOT a TD.

[Darth Biscuit]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Just look at the three pics that have been posted. Piece them together. It's impossible to argue that it's NOT a TD.

Agree, and if you watch the video from the side angle i posted it boggles my mind how they didn't overturn it.  It's not even close.

 

[Popsickle]

12 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Just look at the three pics that have been posted. Piece them together. It's impossible to argue that it's NOT a TD.

If there was a view from the back of the endzone looking down the sideline, that view could be used to determine exactly where the ball is in relationship to the sideline as he is in the air. Without that view, you cannot argue 100% either way. 

[LinvilleGorge]

4 minutes ago, Popsickle said:

If there was a view from the back of the endzone looking down the sideline, that view could be used to determine exactly where the ball is in relationship to the sideline as he is in the air. Without that view, you cannot argue 100% either way. 

There's just no way you can legitimately argue that ball wasn't inside the pylon and across the goalline before his foot came down out of bounds. It's just clear as damn day.

[Toker Smurf]

1 hour ago, ichigo1057 said:

So I think this is an interesting topic to discuss. What do you guys think of how the NFL have done with replays at this point of the season

I think they still can't seem to get their poo together myself. Taking our game as an example, Cam's Superman dive that was ruled down on the line. By all accounts of the replay it showed that the ball crossed the line before any part of his body touched out and as a result should have been reversed to a TD. As we all know the officials ended up letting the play stand citing "Not enough evidence to over call the ruling on the field.". A bunch of BS personally but whatever we scored the next play. Compare that with what happened in the Jets vs. Patriots game where the runner briefly has the ball come loose but secures it before going out for what is ruled as a TD. The replay officials go back and look at this and from all replays shown there was no clear evidence to overturn the TD however they end up ruling it a fumble out of the end zone and as a result a touch back and Patriots ball. I know by all means every replay is different but jeez these guys need to be more consistent with their rulings. If there was no evidence on our call then by all means there should have been no evidence on the Jet's call as well.

I've been thinking for years, 'why don't they just do as the NCAA'. Send it to a replay official. They already have a central office looking at it. Just give them the A thoritay! 

[Popsickle]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

There's just no way you can legitimately argue that ball wasn't inside the pylon and across the goalline before his foot came down out of bounds. It's just clear as damn day.

It's not what about I can argue, it's about what I can prove. And I can't prove nor can you that it was inside the pylon and within the field of play. 

[CatTower]

Cam's arm length is 33.75 inches.  

From the video, I was able to determine that his left foot and left hand hit the ground almost simultaneously.   His left hand is at the half yard line.  His body is turned a slight 30 degrees.  With that slight turn of the body, we'll assume on the safe side and say his right arm is only reaching out 22 inches towards the goalline.  Since his left arm is at the half yard line, he would only have to reach out 18 inches to cross the plane.  Therefore, it is a touchdown.