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Meeks/Fox Defensive Co.

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i thought the d went south when fox took over last year......and who was calling plays the first half of the dallas game bc i want that defense.

see i think fox stepped in at halftime. not really, they just played with so much intensity and aggression, but wore down in the second half when our offense did nothing.

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Sooner or later Fox will take control of this defense like he always does, and when he does it will start playing better. I always thought that Fox should just be the defensive coordinator instead of always having to step in when things go bad. Just my 2cents.

Fox got involved last year during the second half of the season. The D was better during the 1st half.

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Yeah, the defense went down hill in the 2nd half of last season. I'm sure that playing better opponents and having Kemo, Lewis, and Beason either out for some games or playing hurt had nothing to do with it. Who needs to be strong in the middle to shut NFL offenses down anyway? Good coaches can make the defense good no matter what. That's why Tennessee is not missing Haynesworth at all this year...oh wait.

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Yeah, the defense went down hill in the 2nd half of last season. I'm sure that playing better opponents and having Kemo, Lewis, and Beason either out for some games or playing hurt had nothing to do with it. Who needs to be strong in the middle to shut NFL offenses down anyway? Good coaches can make the defense good no matter what. That's why Tennessee is not missing Haynesworth at all this year...oh wait.

Really thats the nail on the head right there.

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Sooner or later Fox will take control of this defense like he always does, and when he does it will start playing better. I always thought that Fox should just be the defensive coordinator instead of always having to step in when things go bad. Just my 2cents.

If you don't mind my asking, how tough is it to watch these guys getting run over like they have been?

We've had loads of speculation on here about Fox's role. Interesting to get some actual insight into it. Validates what a lot of us have thought previously.

Biggest question I'd have would be why it's so difficult for Fox to find someone he trusts completely enough to remain hands off. Does 'that guy' not exist or is he just unavailable?

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Yeah, the defense went down hill in the 2nd half of last season. I'm sure that playing better opponents and having Kemo, Lewis, and Beason either out for some games or playing hurt had nothing to do with it. Who needs to be strong in the middle to shut NFL offenses down anyway? Good coaches can make the defense good no matter what. That's why Tennessee is not missing Haynesworth at all this year...oh wait.

injury wasn't a reason for the 2nd half collapse on defense. Outside of the NYG game there is no argument to be made there.

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injury wasn't a reason for the 2nd half collapse on defense. Outside of the NYG game there is no argument to be made there.

That's BS. Even after that Giants game, all three of those guys were playing hurt. Hell, Beason and Lewis were both playing with basically one good arm and Nick Hayden was still playing a lot of snaps. They still played well against Denver the week after the Giants game anyway, and the only other regular season games that they gave up a lot of points in, were the Green Bay and Saints games, which were both on the road.

I keep hearing that it started right after the bye, but that's BS too. They played Oakland right after the bye and the defense and DeAngelo Williams pretty much won that game despite a sorry day by the offense.

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You'll all have to forgive me, but if a former star defensive player thinks that the defense works better under Fox than it does under someone else, then I'll believe it.

Dan Morgan was a helluva a player, better than beason is..most of us know that and i'm glad to see him actually communicate with some of the fans who cheered him on and pulled for him in his years with the panthers. With that being said i dont care what he says about fox, until i see proof on the field i will remain skeptical of him and when he goes i wont miss him.

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If this is true then it suggests that Fox was the one running the defense the first half of last year. Then during the bye that's when we started hearing about Fox and Turdo getting together and adjusting the playbook. Then after the bye, Fox let's Turdo take control, but he fails miserably. This year Fox took a different approach and let Meeks run the defense first this year, but he's failing as well. If all of that is true, Fox is a better DC than a Head Coach.

I don't want Fox as the Head Coach, but it would be nice if he could step down and accept the DC role while we get a new head coach after this year assuming all of the above is true of course. However, I dont know of many instances of Head Coaches stepping down and accepting a Coordinator job with the same team =\

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