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Can anyone ID this idiot Panthers fan that suckerpunched this dude repeatedly?

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RickyManningJr Newbie

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7 hours ago, Newtcase said:

LOL.  If you threaten someone that you're gonna fug them up...that's assault!  Just the words bro.  If you proceed to execute your words it's assault and battery.

Exactly, people say whatever they want because they know if the other party breathes on them it's assault.

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As a Eagles Fan I commend the Pantherss fan base for workign together and getting a scum bag off the streets .  A lot of times people will defend their own ... Even though he attacked  another panthers fan .... even before that was confirmed and it was thought to be a Ealges .  Everyone stepped up  :)     Dont worry about the  the game , it was dam close  and oyu guys area top notch to in the NFC . I think Cam get asked to do to much , you guys have plenty of weapons to make this a non factor ... even so 4-2  is a dam great record , remember any given Sunday .   Look forward to our next Game .  

 

Fly Eagles Fly   and as Panthers fans  keep pounding  :) 

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11 hours ago, Johnny Rockets said:

Without going into all the details, Thursday night at BOA was a poo show all around. They should have paid me to be on the security payroll because that's what I did most of the evening. Had some great people around me and some absolute garbage.  Meh...it happens.

On an unrelated note, is there some tradition that BOA starts chatting "let's go Panthers!" everytime play stops due to an injured player laying on the field? Happen at least twice Thursday night and I just don't get it. 

When fozzy was down (I think it was him)  the eagles fans started chanting let's go eagles. So I assume it was in response to that.  The first time I joined in because I didn't see someone down. The second time I was pretty embarrassed by it.

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On 10/14/2017 at 1:16 AM, The Huddler said:

Legit question:

 

how can they totally prevent him from being there again? I imagine there is little they can do to keep him out

Once he's been legally banned from stepping foot on the property, he'll be subject to violating Trespass laws if he ever returns. And I'm reasonably sure police working the games will be shown his mugshot and will be told to be on the lookout for him or anyone else that's ever been banned from BoA.

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On 10/15/2017 at 11:40 AM, Newtcase said:

LOL.  If you threaten someone that you're gonna fug them up...that's assault!  Just the words bro.  If you proceed to execute your words it's assault and battery.

 

On 10/15/2017 at 11:50 AM, Floppin said:

This is false.

 

2 hours ago, Davidson Deac II said:

That is not true.  I think you are confusing assault and communicating a threat.  

Actually, it's 100% correct, by definition of legal stipulation. Assault is the threat of imminent violence, and fear for one's safety by the charged attacking party. Battery is the physical aspect of said threat, which is why assault and battery are closely linked, and often confused in regular speech. Assault is enough to create a defensible case in court, in that due to direct threats of violence, the defendant opened fire / smashed a chair into the attacker's head / pulled out his Freddy Krueger claws / whatever, in order to stop the threat against himself. Lack of being able to run away plays a small part in those defenses, but is not a requirement for an aggressor to be charged with assault by an officer.

https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Assault+and+Battery

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4 hours ago, Raskle said:

 

 

Actually, it's 100% correct, by definition of legal stipulation. Assault is the threat of imminent violence, and fear for one's safety by the charged attacking party. Battery is the physical aspect of said threat, which is why assault and battery are closely linked, and often confused in regular speech. Assault is enough to create a defensible case in court, in that due to direct threats of violence, the defendant opened fire / smashed a chair into the attacker's head / pulled out his Freddy Krueger claws / whatever, in order to stop the threat against himself. Lack of being able to run away plays a small part in those defenses, but is not a requirement for an aggressor to be charged with assault by an officer.

https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Assault+and+Battery

Its kind of a gray area, but just threatening to beat up someone is not usually called assault.   Doing it and then running at them, or picking up a weapon and pointing it at them is.  But generally, if I tell you I am going to beat you up, that is communicating a threat.

https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/criminal-defense/criminal-offense/north-carolina-aggravated-assault-laws

  • assault and battery, which involves physically injuring someone else
  • assault, which is the attempt to commit an assault and battery, or a show of force indicating that an assault and battery is imminent, and
  • affray, a fight between two or more people in a public place, likely to frighten others.

 

http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/enactedlegislation/statutes/html/bysection/chapter_14/gs_14-277.1.html

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§ 14-277.1.  Communicating threats.

(a)        A person is guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor if without lawful authority:

(1)        He willfully threatens to physically injure the person or that person's child, sibling, spouse, or dependent or willfully threatens to damage the property of another;

(2)        The threat is communicated to the other person, orally, in writing, or by any other means;

(3)        The threat is made in a manner and under circumstances which would cause a reasonable person to believe that the threat is likely to be carried out; and

(4)        The person threatened believes that the threat will be carried out.

(b)        A violation of this section is a Class 1 misdemeanor.

 

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On 10/14/2017 at 9:26 PM, RickyManningJr said:

I believe that punching someone in the face shouldn't be a crime.  If you continue to assault them then ya, but people need to learn to shut the fug up these days.

really? so punching a child who is doing cartwheels down the aisle in the grocery is okay? 

cool.

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5 hours ago, Raskle said:

 

 

Actually, it's 100% correct, by definition of legal stipulation. Assault is the threat of imminent violence, and fear for one's safety by the charged attacking party. Battery is the physical aspect of said threat, which is why assault and battery are closely linked, and often confused in regular speech. Assault is enough to create a defensible case in court, in that due to direct threats of violence, the defendant opened fire / smashed a chair into the attacker's head / pulled out his Freddy Krueger claws / whatever, in order to stop the threat against himself. Lack of being able to run away plays a small part in those defenses, but is not a requirement for an aggressor to be charged with assault by an officer.

https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Assault+and+Battery

Under North Carolina Law* there is no literal charge of "assault and battery".  If you punch someone it's "simple Assault" if you're older than 16 years old and are a male and punch a female it's "assault on a female". and if you engage in a fight in Public* it is "Simple Affray".   

The difference between "Communicating Threats" and a "Simple Assault" charge would be if you were to actually trying to hit someone after telling them you were gonna kick their ass. in which case you could be charged with both. Though if you were to threaten to beat someone with a tire iron and held it in your hand you could be charged with "assault with a deadly weapon". or pointed a gun at someone it is "Assault by pointing a Gun".

while I'm sure this helped clear things up, there are charges for almost every situation so it just depends on the incident and the arresting officer as to what is actually charged.  - I'm not the police

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2 hours ago, Davidson Deac II said:
  • assault and battery, which involves physically injuring someone else
  • assault, which is the attempt to commit an assault and battery, or a show of force indicating that an assault and battery is imminent, and
  • affray, a fight between two or more people in a public place, likely to frighten others.

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2 hours ago, Doc Holiday said:

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while I'm sure this helped clear things up, there are charges for almost every situation so it just depends on the incident and the arresting officer as to what is actually charged.  - I'm not the police

Actually, this did clear things up, and I learned something about your state. First things first, you guys have some weird laws, lol. It's definitely much different than in most of the states I've ever lived in. But in all seriousness, this was interesting to read, thanks guys!

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