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[SeoulPanther]

The scary thing though is that stats like this show that our win record may be flattering- we have overcome a debilitating stat. We are finding ways to win when maybe we shouldn't. Obviously that's a nice problem to have but it's not a sustainable trend across a season IMO if we are going to be successful.

[beastson]

4 minutes ago, SeoulPanther said:

The scary thing though is that stats like this show that our win record may be flattering- we have overcome a debilitating stat. We are finding ways to win when maybe we shouldn't. Obviously that's a nice problem to have but it's not a sustainable trend across a season IMO if we are going to be successful.

Coaching combined with general management is what that stat shows. GM don't want to pay and bring ballers in and coaching plays soft coverage

[SeoulPanther]

25 minutes ago, Snake said:

Well the last 4 games we faced Brees, Brady, Stafford, and Wenz. None of them really turn the ball over much and are all good QB's. 

Brees : 

Year	Team	G	Comp	Att	%	Yds	Y/G	Y/A	300+	TD	Int	Rush	Yds	Y/G	Avg	TD	100+	Lost
2017	NO	4	105	152	69.1	1135	283.8	7.5	1	8	0	4	3	.8	.8	0	0	0

Wentz : 

Year	Team	G	Comp	Att	%	Yds	Y/G	Y/A	300+	TD	Int	Rush	Yds	Y/G	Avg	TD	100+	Lost
2017	PHI	5	110	177	62.1	1362	272.4	7.7	3	10	3	26	108	21.6	4.2	0	0	1

 

Brady :

Year	Team	G	Comp	Att	%	Yds	Y/G	Y/A	300+	TD	Int	Rush	Yds	Y/G	Avg	TD	100+	Lost
2017	NE	5	133	195	68.2	1702	340.4	8.7	4	11	1	8	22	4.4	2.8	0	0	2

 

Stafford :

Year	Team	G	Comp	Att	%	Yds	Y/G	Y/A	300+	TD	Int	Rush	Yds	Y/G	Avg	TD	100+	Lost
2017	DET	5	111	173	64.2	1116	223.2	6.5	0	9	1	10	53	10.6	5.3	0	0	2

 

Yes the stats make your point that these 4 QBS are good at protecting the ball. But the point remains. If we want this Carolina team to live up to expectations and get to the playoffs and further we won't be facing DeShone Kizer and Brian Hoyer. So we should expect these good opponents as a trend should we get to the playoffs. We must improve our play against good QBs by both making more turnovers and protecting the ball better against good opponents as well as bad ones. What I'm saying is we can't just say well the other player/team is good. That's not an excuse. We have to improve.

 

[Snake]

14 hours ago, SeoulPanther said:

Brees : 

Year	Team	G	Comp	Att	%	Yds	Y/G	Y/A	300+	TD	Int	Rush	Yds	Y/G	Avg	TD	100+	Lost
2017	NO	4	105	152	69.1	1135	283.8	7.5	1	8	0	4	3	.8	.8	0	0	0

Wentz : 

Year	Team	G	Comp	Att	%	Yds	Y/G	Y/A	300+	TD	Int	Rush	Yds	Y/G	Avg	TD	100+	Lost
2017	PHI	5	110	177	62.1	1362	272.4	7.7	3	10	3	26	108	21.6	4.2	0	0	1

 

Brady :

Year	Team	G	Comp	Att	%	Yds	Y/G	Y/A	300+	TD	Int	Rush	Yds	Y/G	Avg	TD	100+	Lost
2017	NE	5	133	195	68.2	1702	340.4	8.7	4	11	1	8	22	4.4	2.8	0	0	2

 

Stafford :

Year	Team	G	Comp	Att	%	Yds	Y/G	Y/A	300+	TD	Int	Rush	Yds	Y/G	Avg	TD	100+	Lost
2017	DET	5	111	173	64.2	1116	223.2	6.5	0	9	1	10	53	10.6	5.3	0	0	2

 

Yes the stats make your point that these 4 QBS are good at protecting the ball. But the point remains. If we want this Carolina team to live up to expectations and get to the playoffs and further we won't be facing DeShone Kizer and Brian Hoyer. So we should expect these good opponents as a trend should we get to the playoffs. We must improve our play against good QBs by both making more turnovers and protecting the ball better against good opponents as well as bad ones. What I'm saying is we can't just say well the other player/team is good. That's not an excuse. We have to improve.

 

If you want to point a finger I think the OC who thinks a simple iso run will eventually break a elite DT is the person for you. Wilks gave up 14 points and Shula gave up 14 points. Who is not doing there job? 

[JakeDel5674]

15 hours ago, Saca312 said:

yeah our corners are decent at shutting guys down, but terrible at ball skills.

having colin jones in the back also hurts.

Bradberry is decent.  Worley is hot garbage.  

[trueblade]

15 hours ago, Snake said:

Well the last 4 games we faced Brees, Brady, Stafford, and Wenz. None of them really turn the ball over much and are all good QB's. 

This may be true, but who do you think we'll face if by some miracle we make the playoffs? Probably good QB who doesn't turn the ball over much. If you're a deep January team you beat good QBs who don't turn it over. 

[csx]

When have 2 turnovers that lead directly to 15 points and you lose by 5 it's pretty clear what one of the major causes of the loss is.

[Snake]

1 minute ago, trueblade said:

This may be true, but who do you think we'll face if by some miracle we make the playoffs? Probably good QB who doesn't turn the ball over much. If you're a deep January team you beat good QBs who don't turn it over. 

We are two and two. I would worry more about the offense. 

[CRA]

Turnovers come in waves.  I have feeling when the next five weeks when we get....Bears, Bucs, Phins and Jets our numbers improve