What Exactly Happened to our Vaunted Rushing Attack?

[Hallin'AllDaeDae]

Just now, tiger7_88 said:

Pardon me, I only had a math degree, not a statistics degree, so could you tell me how many games it takes to establish the "law of averages"?

Because Stew has 77 carries and has a 3.3 ypc right now.  And CMC has a 2.8 ypc.

I'm assuming the answer to my question is "more than 5"?  Or "until they finally have a game where they have success running the ball"?

November, late October, when the weather gets cold. That's when the power running teams are seperated from the non power run teams. There is no science behind it as to why this happens. But eventually the Panthers become the great D with a power running game that everybody knows. Some teams never get to this point. A lot of teams never to the point Panthers will get to. The season is all about building momentum week in and week out.

[tiger7_88]

Just now, grimesgoat said:

Are you saying Cam can't audible out of a play?  Is he forced to run whatever play is sent in regardless of the defensive formation?

Ah, so when your head coach and offensive coordinator (both who know the other team is going to stack the box because the other team knows they want to run clock at that point of the game) STILL call running play after running play because, you know, THEY WANT TO RUN THE CLOCK, your answer (so that, yet again, you can blame Cam and suck off the coaches) is that "well, golly, Cam can just override how his head coach wants to run his end-of-game strategy and free-lance!"

Good lord.

[tiger7_88]

2 minutes ago, stbugs said:

Yep. Amazing our coaches still haven’t gotten that yet. First downs milk the clock not three and outs. How many games even in 2015 did we have a big lead and then got 1 or 2 first downs the rest of the game and the D, usually playing well at that point, loses it’s freshness by being on the field 10+ minutes in the 4th?

The extra 20 seconds we burn with a three and out <<<<<<< running 12 plays with a couple first downs on safe play action fakes or slants like KB’s last catch. 

But but but Cam can just tell his head coach to go to hell and audible the hell out of that poo!

At least so I've been reliably informed.

[Hallin'AllDaeDae]

7 minutes ago, tiger7_88 said:

But but but Cam can just tell his head coach to go to hell and audible the hell out of that poo!

At least so I've been reliably informed.

I don't see why he can't.

I would have liked to see us run up the score on the Lions but their throat was cut, we were just waiting for them to bleed out. And they did.

[tiger7_88]

1 minute ago, Hallin'AllDaeDae said:

I don't see why he can't.

[Hallin'AllDaeDae]

2 minutes ago, tiger7_88 said:

I can't wait to see 30 year old NFL Cam he is going to turn into a Peyton Manning back there. He's still too young for that. That time will come.

Peyton Manning as in audibling like crazy

[Joe the Show]

It seems part of our evolution on offense was adding a short passing attack to supplement the run game when traditional hand offs are not getting the job done.  The problem is that Shula still seems afraid to call these short passes in crunch time, limiting us to predictable plays and zero yards gained.  We really needed to break out a quick screen or dump off of some sort to open things up in the 4th.  Also, maybe actually hand the ball off on the jet sweep once in a while.

[Bartin]

Aggressive team with big lead against a clutch QB - Falcons in Super Bowl

Conservative team with big lead that took a lot of time off the clock while the defense was playing badly against a clutch QB - Panthers

[csx]

2 hours ago, rodeo said:

he most certainly did, i noticed #65 multiple times whiffing on blocks. unless he loaned someone his jersey.

http://www.panthers.com/news/article-2/Snap-Counts-Panthers-at-Lions/8378b1e5-b0b8-40ba-8976-4dc284095b71

 

You are correct. I am blind. I looked at this 10 times and didn't see it. I apologize. I'm grumpy today

[grimesgoat]

17 minutes ago, tiger7_88 said:

Ah, so when your head coach and offensive coordinator (both who know the other team is going to stack the box because the other team knows they want to run clock at that point of the game) STILL call running play after running play because, you know, THEY WANT TO RUN THE CLOCK, your answer (so that, yet again, you can blame Cam and suck off the coaches) is that "well, golly, Cam can just override how his head coach wants to run his end-of-game strategy and free-lance!"

Good lord.

Your worship of Cam has reached pathological status.

After 7 years in the NFL, Cam is perfectly capable of reacting to what the defense is showing him and making an adjustment.  To suggest otherwise is to perpetuate the black quarterback stereotype.  This offends me.

Another explanation is that we want to run the ball on first down to get the clock started.  The expectation is to pick up 2-3 yards and burn about 50 seconds.  That is a significantly better result than an incompletion which nets 0 yards and burns 6-7 seconds, or worse a turnover. I suspect Cam understands this basic strategy and therefore is comfortable with the play call.

   

[UpstatePanther]

On 10/9/2017 at 12:46 PM, Smithers said:

Halfway through the season teams started playing off, respecting Newton's arm.  The result?  One of the best 8 game spans J-Stew ever had. 

I seem to remember that happening around this time that year. Against the Colts or these very same Eagles. It’ll be an interesting game this week

[pantherclaw]

It's no secret how to beat the Panthers. 

First, you take stop our rushing attack.  

No matter the talent that we have up front, teams are going to sell out to stop our run game. 

They've been pretty successful so far, as our run blocking isn't getting the job done. The oline as a whole, just isn't executing as well. Give credit to opposing defenses too, as they certainly have a lot to say about it. 

Our oline will get better at it sooner rather than later. 

 

[iamhubby1]

2 minutes ago, pantherclaw said:

It's no secret how to beat the Panthers. 

First, you take stop our rushing attack.  

No matter the talent that we have up front, teams are going to sell out to stop our run game. 

They've been pretty successful so far, as our run blocking isn't getting the job done. The oline as a whole, just isn't executing as well. Give credit to opposing defenses too, as they certainly have a lot to say about it. 

Our oline will get better at it sooner rather than later. 

 

 

    Except, we are 4-1, so that approach has a pretty high failure rate. 

 

    I get it. Trying to work the clock is boring. Fans don't like boring. Unfortunately, NFL coaches keep their jobs with boring. 

 

    To those folks who cannot get past someone not being perfect. I say to you. We are 4-1 baby. And your expectations are unrealistic. 

 

    The best part in all this? If Cam can sustain his play for another 7 years or more. Rivera will probably still be his coach. I know, low blow. lol

    

[iamhubby1]

On 10/9/2017 at 1:32 PM, wud35 said:

This. why cant people understand football? some people just look for things to grip about. everyone can't have awesome stats every game.

 

    Some folks cannot live with that. They won't settle for anything less than their expectations being met. They take it personally when they feel let down, and are willing to let others know they are not happy.

 

    Rivera has a 57-46-1 record. By the end of the year it very well could be something like 68-49-1. 2 COY titles, and a couple of SBs, while winning one. But, because he doesn't win in the proper fashion...you get this negative nit picky stuff.

 

     In conclusion. I guess to some, it matters more on how you win. Than the actual act of winning.