What Exactly Happened to our Vaunted Rushing Attack?

[Peppers90 NC]

The run game has always taken 4-6 weeks to get going, and I am going back 10 years. Perfect timing for this short week.

[LordOfDaWingz]

Run blocking is bad but also hate the running plays called and I think J.Stewart has slowed down a lot. 

 

Idk why we kept trying to run him outside yesterday. Stew is no longer shifty and fast.

[countryboi]

its a mix of a lot of things, teams selling out on the run, poor run blocking, lack of elite talent at back. Stew has lost a step and CMC looks like a wide receiver. 

[csx]

nm

[Fox007]

3 hours ago, Cyberjag said:

Teams sold out to stop it and force us to rely on our passing game.  We all know how that's turned out.

This.

Shula keeps running into the 10 man fronts and is not passing on first down. If we passed on first down more it would open up early runs. Our passing game is on and we should stick with it until teams back off.

Also hard to keep blaming the OL when they are playing the run every time on obvious passing situations. Like it or not but the poo stain philosophy of 'just line up and beat the other man' doesn't work that simply, especially if "that other man" is actually several other men because you're doing something stupid.

[tiger7_88]

3 hours ago, Hallin'AllDaeDae said:

Do you watch the games ? Like do you even fugin watch ?

Teams priority number 1 against us is stop the run make Cam's arm beat you, and he's doing it

So "Power Run Team" is just a label meaning nothing?

Every team in the NFL likes to run when the opposing defense doesn't stack the box.  I always (mistakenly) assumed that a "Power Run Team" was supposed to still be able to impose their will on those defenses.

Can you explain to me the difference between the standard NFL team that succeeds in running when the opposing defense doesn't stack the box and fails when the opposing defense does and a "power run" team that pretty much achieves the same thing in the same situations?

[tiger7_88]

3 hours ago, ncfan said:

To predictable

 

5 out of 7 drives in the second half started off with a RB run on first down.  6th had penalty on Funchess and then the drive started with a RB run.

Detroit Stacked the box, they knew what was coming.

 

After we held them on 4th down at midfield, set up the perfect opportunity for a playaction shot and couldve been the dager. Instead with Detroit stacked the box.....Stewart run........2 yard loss.

 

 

Again awesome playcalling in the 1st half, 2nd half complete opposite

I pointed this out yesterday:

On our last 3 drives, we made one 1st down.  That means we had four 1st down and four 2nd down calls.

We ran straight into the overloaded box on 6 of those 8 plays.

For a total of 9 yards.

[PantherPhann89]

We don't have a true FB and our offensive line is not a run blocking line...

[tiger7_88]

2 hours ago, grimesgoat said:

the true goal of running the ball.  Keep the defense fresh.

Oddly enough, when we were running the ball in the 2nd half to drain that clock for Ron's precious TOP, the "fresh" defense kept giving up points.

Probably because we weren't getting 1st downs.  That is, until Cam finally got that critical 1st down... by passing it to KB.

But, by all means, lets do whatever we can to keep the ball out of the hand of our best player, especially when he's shown for almost a full game that he's picking apart the opposing defense with a near-80% completion percentage and 3 TDs.

[grimesgoat]

3 minutes ago, tiger7_88 said:

Oddly enough, when we were running the ball in the 2nd half to drain that clock for Ron's precious TOP, the "fresh" defense kept giving up points.

Probably because we weren't getting 1st downs.  That is, until Cam finally got that critical 1st down... by passing it to KB.

But, by all means, lets do whatever we can to keep the ball out of the hand of our best player, especially when he's shown for almost a full game that he's picking apart the opposing defense with a near-80% completion percentage and 3 TDs.

Well Cam had the ball in his hands for every single play.  I thought he was our best player.

[Hallin'AllDaeDae]

10 minutes ago, tiger7_88 said:

So "Power Run Team" is just a label meaning nothing?

Every team in the NFL likes to run when the opposing defense doesn't stack the box.  I always (mistakenly) assumed that a "Power Run Team" was supposed to still be able to impose their will on those defenses.

Can you explain to me the difference between the standard NFL team that succeeds in running when the opposing defense doesn't stack the box and fails when the opposing defense does and a "power run" team that pretty much achieves the same thing in the same situations?

Because as the law of averages come into play we'll eventually start running the ball effectively regardless of a stacked box or not

[tiger7_88]

1 minute ago, grimesgoat said:

Well Cam had the ball in his hands for every single play.  I thought he was our best player.

Ahhhh, so to you hand-off-into-stacked-box = pass

Good lord.

[grimesgoat]

Just now, tiger7_88 said:

Ahhhh, so to you hand-off-into-stacked-box = pass

Good lord.

Are you saying Cam can't audible out of a play?  Is he forced to run whatever play is sent in regardless of the defensive formation?

[tiger7_88]

2 minutes ago, Hallin'AllDaeDae said:

Because as the law of averages come into play we'll eventually start running the ball effectively regardless of a stacked box or not

Pardon me, I only had a math degree, not a statistics degree, so could you tell me how many games it takes to establish the "law of averages"?

Because Stew has 77 carries and has a 3.3 ypc right now.  And CMC has a 2.8 ypc.

I'm assuming the answer to my question is "more than 5"?  Or "until they finally have a game where they have success running the ball"?