Guess How Predictable The Panthers Running Game Is?

[tiger7_88]

2 hours ago, iamhubby1 said:

We are not going to Air it out. We are a Defensive minded team, that wants to impose their will on the opponent.

With every rule in the modern rule book written to advantage the passing game and to disadvantage defenses in defending the passing game.  

Rivera is a goddam Super-Tricky-Reverse GENIUS, I tell you.

 

[panthers55]

7 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

We're fans on a fan forum. None of us are changing anything. 

Is your constant defending of Shula despite the piling mountains of evidence suggesting that the guy is a clueless hack changing anything? 

No but as someone who actually knows what I am looking at and has a context, I am simply explaining why what you complain about is largely baseless and why he continues to have a job despite all the angst. You are free to ignore or argue all you want. Like my signature has always said, I can explain it to you but can't understand it for you. Then again gaining knowledge doesn't appear to be point for you. Seems your purpose is to just vent and complain about the same few subjects over and over trying to get agrrement.

[tiger7_88]

11 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

We're fans on a fan forum. None of us are changing anything. 

Is your constant defending of Shula despite the piling mountains of evidence suggesting that the guy is a clueless hack changing anything? 

For some of the Shula defenders, if Shula was caught diddling little boys they'd claim he was just participating in an innocent pediatric physical exam.

[panthers55]

5 minutes ago, tiger7_88 said:

With every rule in the modern rule book written to advantage the passing game and to disadvantage defenses in defending the passing game.  

Rivera is a goddam Super-Tricky-Reverse GENIUS, I tell you.

 

Actually Rivera is a product of his background and training. Defensive guys play percentages and are predictable. Like Jim Johnson who was considered a defensive guru. The closer you got to the endzone the more he blitzed. On third and long he was bringing everyone. Of course where is was coming from was the unpredictable part not if it was coming. Rivera is from the  Jim Johnson school of thought. Except he isn't as extreme, neither was McDermott.

[panthers55]

6 minutes ago, tiger7_88 said:

For some of the Shula defenders, if Shula was caught diddling little boys they'd claim he was just participating in an innocent pediatric physical exam.

Really. Who goes there? That kind of crap should earn you a day off.

[Little Goody Two Shoes]

My guess is 4

[iamhubby1]

5 minutes ago, tiger7_88 said:

With every rule in the modern rule book written to advantage the passing game and to disadvantage defenses in defending the passing game.  

Rivera is a goddam Super-Tricky-Reverse GENIUS, I tell you.

 

 

    There are plenty of good teams that want to do what we want to do. Stop the run, and run the ball effectively. So yeah, I guess he is.

 

    We are 2-0, and we get this shiit. Ima go back to lurking. Trying to talk football with folks who are in panic mode is just down right mind numbing. Everything sux right now. If it ain't the players, it's the coaching, or both, or something else. Zod, I hope we don't lose this week, cuz this place is already on suicide watch.

 

    Rivera has a winning record. But I guess even that isn't good enough right now.

[iamhubby1]

15 minutes ago, tiger7_88 said:

For some of the Shula defenders, if Shula was caught diddling little boys they'd claim he was just participating in an innocent pediatric physical exam.

 

    Dude. Really?

[Icege]

1 hour ago, panthers55 said:

Don't think they were in the same context. The Stewart comment was in response to someone saying we only run Stewart up the middle and never pass and that we only run CMC around the corner. I never used that to determine if he was a reliable passing threat. That was your confabulation not mine. My comment about Stewart being a reliable catching threat was to point out he dropped an easy pass over the middle. Try and keep up....

So because he dropped one pass over the middle and caught another one in the middle for a TD, he's unreliable?

How much have you had to drink today?

[PantherPhann89]

2 hours ago, iamhubby1 said:

 

    Now see, this is where the problem lies. Because, we do run multiple plays out of every formation we employ. Too many folks seem to miss this tid bit. They see another team run a play that is successful, and right away they want us to run that play. 

 

    There are precious few folks around here that truly do realize that this is Rivera's team. We are not going to morph into a pass happy, throw the ball around, type team.

 

    And it was Wilks that said that. 

The problem lies in what i said. I can't attest to running multiple plays out of EVERY formation we run but the personnel in our formation is key and at times a tell tell. In addition, i don't think that certain plays are being sold. If its a reverse, sell the reverse.

Everyone around here realizes that this is Rivera's team and i don't recall saying that wanted or expected us to be or become a pass happy team. I want us to play great fundamental football, starting with the play calling and personnel grouping. But to be that we do need our WR to create separation, either through speed, perfected route running or selling the sell and once they buy, it's woth 6.

I said that i think it was Rivera, meaning i wasn't sure. 

[raleigh-panther]

3 hours ago, panthers55 said:

Look at the last 15 screens we ran before this year and tell me how they worked. Seemed to me if you don't get results you try something else unless we are looking for failure

 

I am laughing out loud at your analogy given the coordinator...

thank God we don't have Bersin or Cotchery for that bubble screen anymore 

[LinvilleGorge]

15 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

No but as someone who actually knows what I am looking at and has a context, I am simply explaining why what you complain about is largely baseless and why he continues to have a job despite all the angst. You are free to ignore or argue all you want. Like my signature has always said, I can explain it to you but can't understand it for you. Then again gaining knowledge doesn't appear to be point for you. Seems your purpose is to just vent and complain about the same few subjects over and over trying to get agrrement.

Do you even read your own bullshit? People post actual statistical information and you counter with a bunch of conjecture and hypotheticals. Well maybe this, well maybe that. We all saw a Broncos LB sit there literally laughing about how we changed nothing leading up to the SB. They had us completely pegged based on film study. He was absolutely incredulous about how such a thing could actually happen. 

During Rivera's time here, we have had an OC and a DC as well as a former QB coach all move on to be head coaches. Meanwhile, Shula can't even get an interview. Shula has publicly said he'd be open to interviewing for head coach positions so it's not like it's due to his lack of interest. That right there says a ton about how the rest of the league views him. The fact that Rivera who is loyal to a fault sticks with him doesn't say anything for his abilities as an OC. Ron seemingly values continuity and familiarity over just about everything else. 

 

[LinvilleGorge]

Whew. I always get a little concerned when I get a notification that sanjay has reacted to one of my posts. Anytime I find my law of in agreement with sanjay I immediately feel like I need to reevaluate my position.

[L-TownCat]

Arm chair coordinators, rabid fans, meat heads, elderly, and juvenile can all plainly see that this offense looks like it was drawn up by Don Shula and directed by Mike.

Its an affront to anyone who has grown accustomed to the ingenuity and artistry that is on display at various levels all across the league.  

Smashmouth football is a beautiful thing to watch as well.  When done correctly it's sheer force demoralizes and intimidates.

This offense looks and feels like a body builder knitting a tea cozy.  We have this monster just waiting to explode but instead we get this flaccid, neutered Theon Greyjoy performance.

If this offense were a flower it's name would be the pussywillow.

If it were a puzzle, it would be in a pediatrician's waiting room.

If it were a song, Nickleback wrote it.

The Vietcong have used all 22 cam footage to successfully interrogate POWs.

When archeologists dig up the ruins of the 21st century, 1000s of years from now, Proffessors will point to this fuggin offense as the point where humanity died.