Guess How Predictable The Panthers Running Game Is?

[panthers55]

Just now, gmonjimbo said:

This might be off topic but when was the last time a Panthers RB had 100 yards rushing in a game or averaged 4.5 yards per carry with 15+ rushes?

How many teams use multiple backs and have a quarterback who is 245 and can run like Cam. Gee you think they might be related?   Duh.....

[backINblack28]

Ok.  So.  Let me preface what I'm about to say with 2 things.  1. I would fire Shula instantly and 2. I wish we could just bring Chud back like nothing happened and resume normal decent OC activities (they fired him after 1 f year. IMO that move by the Browns took a SB away from us).

Ok.  Now.  This backside reverse screen play where we basically fake a screen one way and throw it the other way.  When it works, it's beautiful.  When it doesn't, it gets easily intercepted by Khalil Mack for a free touchdown.  IMO it doesn't work now because in order to run a backside fake screen, you HAVE TO RUN THE ACTUAL SCREEN SOMETIMES because a fake doesn't work if you don't run the actual thing you're faking.  Football 101? Maybe.  

With that said.  I feel like running a few HB screens to CMC would really open up for that play to Stew.  If we line them both up, fake the screen to CMC and reverse it on the back end to Stewart, the guy who the d doesn't really expect to get that pass, seems like it could be a good back and forth.  And in my opinion, Shula's biggest enemy is a strong outside pass rush.  We get into situations where the DE pin their ears back (vs. Minn, SB 50 vs Den, last week to name a few glaring examples) and Cam just gets annihilated.  These screen plays when effective serve to back that pass rush up.  You do that once or twice to fruition and all of the sudden the pass rushers hesitate.  Our biggest point of success in 2015 was that at any snap, 11 defensive players hesitated for 1 second focusing on Cam.  We've got to be able to throw wrinkles to create that hesitation.  Then you back the D up, and it's on.  Just a thought.

[TheRed]

16 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

Why point out that you don't have a clue. Now ask me has Stewart scored a TD on the ground or the air?  Did you see the pass to Stewart he dropped over the middle against Buffalo? And did you see how we ran CMC between the tackles several times in 2 games?

Well if you did then you would stop making stupid threads saying we are too predictable and only use players one way or the other. Because if that is what you think you clearly have an agenda or don't know what you are talking about.

I don't even remember the last time I made a thread, the hell are you on about?

If you disagree and want to make excuses for Shula, by all means go ahead.

[gmonjimbo]

1 minute ago, panthers55 said:

How many teams use multiple backs and have a quarterback who is 245 and can run like Cam. Gee you think they might be related?   Duh.....

This isn't a post to throw shade, just curious.

[panthers55]

Just now, backINblack28 said:

Ok.  So.  Let me preface what I'm about to say with 2 things.  1. I would fire Shula instantly and 2. I wish we could just bring Chud back like nothing happened and resume normal decent OC activities (they fired him after 1 f year. IMO that move by the Browns took a SB away from us).

Ok.  Now.  This backside reverse screen play where we basically fake a screen one way and throw it the other way.  When it works, it's beautiful.  When it doesn't, it gets easily intercepted by Khalil Mack for a free touchdown.  IMO it doesn't work now because in order to run a backside fake screen, you HAVE TO RUN THE ACTUAL SCREEN SOMETIMES because a fake doesn't work if you don't run the actual thing you're faking.  Football 101? Maybe.  

With that said.  I feel like running a few HB screens to CMC would really open up for that play to Stew.  If we line them both up, fake the screen to CMC and reverse it on the back end to Stewart, the guy who the d doesn't really expect to get that pass, seems like it could be a good back and forth.  And in my opinion, Shula's biggest enemy is a strong outside pass rush.  We get into situations where the DE pin their ears back (vs. Minn, SB 50 vs Den, last week to name a few glaring examples) and Cam just gets annihilated.  These screen plays when effective serve to back that pass rush up.  You do that once or twice to fruition and all of the sudden the pass rushers hesitate.  Our biggest point of success in 2015 was that at any snap, 11 defensive players hesitated for 1 second focusing on Cam.  We've got to be able to throw wrinkles to create that hesitation.  Then you back the D up, and it's on.  Just a thought.

Stopped reading at I would bring Chud back. He did more to get Cam killed in year 2 than Shula has the past 3.

[panthers55]

Just now, TheRed said:

I don't even remember the last time I made a thread, the hell are you on about?

If you disagree and want to make excuses for Shula, by all means go ahead.

I just want you to back up what you say with actual facts based on watching film not half assed parroted opinions with no basis. Do it in a thread or post.

[backINblack28]

this thread is a lot less fun with an abrasive member of shula's family in here

[TheRed]

3 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

I just want you to back up what you say with actual facts based on watching film not half assed parroted opinions with no basis. Do it in a thread or post.

I watched all the games last year. Yes our OL has and still continues to be an issue but we should not consistently be running the play clock all the way down to zero just to get a call in. Shula isn't a first year OC.

[The Lobo]

30 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

You could see Stewart getting frustrated last Sunday, literally no where for him to run.

Stewart has to EARN every single yard he gets 

Exactly, he is under appreciated here and in the national spotlight because he doesn't get many yards. They don't take into account how he gets hit at the LOS or in the backfield, then has to break a tackle just to get positive yards. He doesnt get to the second level untouched very often. 

[Rags]

8 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

Stopped reading at I would bring Chud back. He did more to get Cam killed in year 2 than Shula has the past 3.

Lol

[panthers55]

Just now, backINblack28 said:

this thread is a lot less fun with an abrasive member of shula's family in here

Especially one who is tired of all the opinion and innuendo and calls out folks who can't back up anything they say. Take you for instance. Let's run a half back screen. Duh. Two problems. What is Cam's completion % on passes behind the line and within 5 yards of the line? How great is Stewart catching the ball? Did you see the pass last week that hit him in the hands and he dropped it? 

Did you see the screen to CMC where he ran for 15 yards. Maybe we didn't run them in the past because they didn't work because we didn't have a good back who was quick and has good hands. Maybe we are running them now because we have a good back who can catch the ball.

[Saca312]

Here’s the context you’re looking for @panthers55

Come again about how I post stuff without understanding what I’m talking about.

[Rags]

Just now, panthers55 said:

Especially one who is tired of all the opinion and innuendo and calls out folks who can't back up anything they say. Take you for instance. Let's run a half back screen. Duh. Two problems. What is Cam's completion % on passes behind the line and within 5 yards of the line? How great is Stewart catching the ball? Did you see the pass last week that hit him in the hands and he dropped it? 

Did you see the screen to CMC where he ran for 15 yards. Maybe we didn't run them in the past because they didn't work because we didn't have a good back who was quick and has good hands. Maybe we are running them now because we have a good back who can catch the ball.

You know for someone who says "WHERES YOUR STATS" you never actually

 

Posts stats

[panthers55]

3 minutes ago, TheRed said:

I watched all the games last year. Yes our OL has and still continues to be an issue but we should not consistently be running the play clock all the way down to zero just to get a call in. Shula isn't a first year OC.

We aren't. Cam has 15 to 20 seconds on all plays to call the play and get the call in. Plus we ran at least 60% of our passes out of the no huddle. So exactly how much of a problem is this really?