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Mike Shula has already cost us one Super Bowl


Kevin Greene

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7 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I'm a fan of the Coryell offense. 

That doesn't mean I believe everyone who runs it does so effectively.

Yea thats why I mentioned him as a play-caller is where is falls short. And does the Coryell system generally include option runs or is that an addition to fit our QB?

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3 hours ago, Peppers90 NC said:

Yea thats why I mentioned him as a play-caller is where is falls short. And does the Coryell system generally include option runs or is that an addition to fit our QB?

That's an addition. At the time the Coryell was invented, there weren't exactly a lot of running quarterbacks.

As to Shula, I've always said - and still say - that his play design is a bigger problem than his playcalling.

 

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2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I'm a fan of the Coryell offense. 

Thatdoesn't mean I believe everyone who runs it does so effectively.

I agree ...it is a system..everyone has their part...players, coaches, GMs...that is why i said maybe he did not have the players to effectivy run his system, but now he has a mix back of receivers.. We are still running medicore plays..now onto players?  You pick these players, you pic what position or motion they run, some of these players should be running up the middle not to the outside or vice versa..its like he tries to use reverse physicology. Yes the players have to execute but in the end you help pick these players.. We are so pridictable that plays are dead before they begin...playcalling has to improve. His job is to put the best players in the right place to execute. I can not say he does that 80% of the time which to me is average. Compared to the rest of the OC in the NFL.

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8 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Except individual players owe more to their position coaches than their coordinator.

The OCs job is to scheme all the moving parts into an effective machine.

Shula can only really be credited with doing that for one season, and even then we played poorly in the latter half of games.

I like Shula far better as a QB coach than I do as an OC.

 Not necessarily true. It's the job of the coordinator to put every player in the best position to succeed as individuals and more importantly as a unit. Everyone argues he does not make proper adjustments to compensate for player weaknesses. If, using your logic when need to start blaming position coaches more than we are Shula

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22 minutes ago, panther4life said:

 Not necessarily true. It's the job of the coordinator to put every player in the best position to succeed as individuals and more importantly as a unit. Everyone argues he does not make proper adjustments to compensate for player weaknesses. If, using your logic when need to start blaming position coaches more than we are Shula

What you just pointed out that he needs to do well is exactly what he doesn't do well.

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17 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

What you just pointed out that he needs to do well is exactly what he doesn't do well.

Well my original argument was that he does get the most out of individual players , as evidenced by every player that has played under him and other coordinators do better under his command. 

 

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