Mike Shula has already cost us one Super Bowl

[Malt Liquor]

Can we all agree that the bottom line is Mike Shula is a horrible offensive coordinator period. He has his moments. But even s h i t doesn't smell too bad if you hold your nose. Yeah he is not that good at his job.

[panthers55]

3 hours ago, Davidson Deac II said:

Fwiw, our offense played as well as the Broncos offense did.  Our offensive line couldn't block Von Miller and Demarcus Ware, both potential hall of famers.  Their offensive line couldn't block Kony Ealy.  We made more all around mistakes than they did.  Poor tackling on a punt return, missed field goal, and most importantly, turnovers.  That cost us the game.  Nothing else.  

Exactly. These same dozen posters who constantly spew ignorant posts and start stupid threads are annoying not only because they are wrong but only a small percentage of folks are knowledgeable enough to know it is crap. Even fewer are willing to state it and deal with the endless crap you take from folks all the way up to the owner of this site. People forget that Denver got handed their butt to them in the Super Bowl 2 years earlier when the Broncos had the most prolific offense in the league by far. 

[Peppers90 NC]

10 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Wade Phillips exposed the poo out of Mike Shula that night. Shula still hasn't recovered from that sonning. 

Neither has our QB. Thanks Shula.

[Peppers90 NC]

20 minutes ago, Malt Liquor said:

Can we all agree that the bottom line is Mike Shula is a horrible offensive coordinator period. He has his moments. But even s h i t doesn't smell too bad if you hold your nose. Yeah he is not that good at his job.

I like his system, his play calling is terrible. Can we just get somebody to make adjustments and do the play-calling?

[Peppers90 NC]

8 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

Exactly. These same dozen posters who constantly spew ignorant posts and start stupid threads are annoying not only because they are wrong but only a small percentage of folks are knowledgeable enough to know it is crap. Even fewer are willing to state it and deal with the endless crap you take from folks all the way up to the owner of this site. People forget that Denver got handed their butt to them in the Super Bowl 2 years earlier when the Broncos had the most prolific offense in the league by far. 

Yes. The fact is Denver got really hot on the defensive side of the ball. Very FEW tackles would stand up to that pass rush. We could have made adjustments though but it wouldn't necessarily made a huge difference.

[Mr. Scot]

8 hours ago, rayzor said:

i think he wants to prove it will still work. fox did the same thing.

i think to a large degree, shula's failing is rivera's failing and vice versa. i don't know who it is that is making the decision to change nothing, but right now i don't get the sense that this evolution was anything more than dreams without either the true intention or ability to make it happen.

There are always those people who believe so hard in their system - or themselves - that they will not accept any indication of flaws or weaknesses even when they've been clearly demonstrated. Heck, they'll double down rather than admit any issues exist.

One term often used to describe these people is "bad coaches". 

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, Peppers90 NC said:

I like his system, his play calling is terrible. Can we just get somebody to make adjustments and do the play-calling?

This I largely agree with. I think Shula does a pretty decent job of game prepping it's just that he does an atrocious job of adapting within the game itself. 

[panthers55]

2 hours ago, stbugs said:

Umm, yes they were. 2nd and 3 at the Chiefs 20 and a FG gets us an insurmountable 3 score lead. We pass twice and get out of FG range. The playcalling was stupid for that situation. You want nothing more than going for a first and at worst kicking a 37 yard FG which even Gano could do last year.

Shula calls good plays and the game's over as we would have been up 20-3 in the 4th quarter. Newton's pick 6 doesn't need to happen nor would a pass to KB for the fumble because we would still have been winning and could have kneeled down.

Funny that your example is exactly why Shula sucks. He has no clue what situations are and how to adjust and it cost us as many games last year as Ganope. 

Passes aren't bad plays if executed properly. It wasn't bad playcalling it was crappy execution and awareness on Cam's part. Who doesn't know you throw the ball away when you in field goal range. If I remember correctly he bailed to the left and there was a wide open receiver in the flat on one of the two sacks. Truth is Shula gets the crap when anyone messes up and 80% of the time it wasn't the play it was the execution. And most folks can't tell the difference.

[Hallin'AllDaeDae]

What did fans expect us to evolve into though lol a team that didn't rely on running the ball and stopping the run ?

[Mr. Scot]

2 hours ago, Hallin'AllDaeDae said:

Shula's ideal offense is beautiful football. You smash the fug out of the other team on the ground, that's the given. Then, you get big chunk plays in the pass game. Soon, you can at will run, or pass.

20 play drive against Chiefs that ended in two sacks last year anybody ? Or were those two sacks Shula's fault ?

Shula's offensive philosophy is perfect for the Panthers

Weird. I could swear that sounds like an offense I heard of decades ago.

It was invented by a guy named Cory something...

[panthers55]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

There are always those people who believe so hard in their system - or themselves - that they will not accept any indication of flaws or weaknesses even when they've been clearly demonstrated. Heck, they'll double down rather than admit any issues exist.

One term often used to describe these people is "bad coaches". 

And neither Shula or Rivera are that. Both have admitted their mistakes and sought help. Like Rivera has done with Madden and Shula has done heavily involving players and coaches. In fact Shula current system is nothing like he ran a decade ago and is heavily borrowed from Chud, the college game and other sources.

Anyone who can't see that must fit in the term of bad or at least uninformed poster.

[LinvilleGorge]

Still mind numbing to me how many of our fans want to blame an MVP QB for the majority of our issues when that MVP QB's OC can't even get his name mentioned as a potential HC candidate. Folks, there's a reason for that. Wake up. Cam isn't perfect, but Shula is trash and the rest of the league knows it.

[rayzor]

it's one thing to admit a need for help and seek it out. it's another to implement and change and i don't really see that happening.

the mind is willing, but the decision making is weak.

[Peppers90 NC]

Just now, rayzor said:

it's one thing to admit a need for help and seek it out. it's another to implement and change and i don't really see that happening.

the mind is willing, but the decision making is weak.

that fact we kicked a FG on the 2yd line to put us only up by 6 against the team that scored a TD to beat us last time we played them in the same situation is a prime example.