Mike Shula has already cost us one Super Bowl

[TbTeRRoR]

so    he doesn't get credit for 15-1    or the 2 great playoff games ( I know defense showed bigtime)   but he gets credit for the  0-1 superbowl. 

 

Man I'm glad you guys aren't my boss.

[rayzor]

2 minutes ago, gmonjimbo said:

I think they are both culpable, Ron Rivera regularly mentions in his press conferences regarding the offense that "we do what we do". Ron wants a physical, ball-control offense. That's why regardless of the Bills having a stout front four, they ran the ball 28 times for 2.8 yards per carry. I don't believe the Panthers alter their game plan to attack the opposition weaknesses. That is why there are rarely any adjustments come halftime because the blame will be on player execution than actually putting the players in position to succeed.

Get the lead. hold the lead.

Good idea, but when you are dealing with a league that makes it easy for passing games to excel plus a climate that has the panthers as the bad guys that needs to be put in their place (read into that whatever you want tho it largely has to do with them not liking cam)...you can't just sit on a lead.

Use your D to hold them back while you grow your lead. You can't ever let up. The best way to protect a lead is to put it out of reach for the other team.

[Dex]

6 minutes ago, L-TownCat said:

No no it hasn't.  We know when our guys get interviews.  Shula has had zero.

Hes just not good.  Sorry.

Don't apologize to me. I don't have a dog in this fight. Just trying to be objective unlike 90% of the Madden playing knee jerkers on the Huddle.

[rmoneyg35]

Did Shula fumble the ball twice resulting to touchdowns? We probably would have won if Cam didn't fumble the ball. Hell he could of still thrown the interceptions and we would have still had a good chance of winning. As bad as Shula is we still had a chance of winning.

[Davidson Deac II]

1 hour ago, Sasquatch said:

Replace Shula with Henning in these threads and it's 04 - 06 all over again. 

BTW, Are you folks slamming on Shula aware that he's been awarded OC of the year twice in the last 5 years? It doesn't appear NFL folks agree with your opinions.

 

Or Davidson.  Reality is we have never had an offensive coordinator the fan base was generally happy with.  Of course, that is true with the majority of fan bases.  Next to the head coach, the offensive coordinator gets more blame than any other individual.  Unless its a team that scores a lot of points, but can't stop anyone.  Then its the defensive coordinator.  

[Cary Kollins]

Wade Phillips undressed Shula and by proxy Rivera in the 2015 Super Bowl with a less talented roster.

Shula is without a doubt at best a below average offensive coordinator. He happened to fall into the job of OC for the sake of continuity. Thank god we at least had Chud to design an innovative offense tailored to Cam's skillset which Shula adopted.

 

[L-TownCat]

14 minutes ago, Dex said:

Don't apologize to me. I don't have a dog in this fight. Just trying to be objective unlike 90% of the Madden playing knee jerkers on the Huddle.

Don't play madden.  Even if I did, I possess the ability to discern real life and video games.

I respect objectivity.  Just not sure how anyone can look at this offense and see something good?

Cam has done what he can, but teams have this vanilla bean O figured out.  Presnap is a frantic mess, play developement opperates on geological time, and most passing plays are so obvious a 6 year old can see it coming.

[Dex]

2 minutes ago, L-TownCat said:

Don't play madden.  Even if I did, I possess the ability to discern real life and video games.

I respect objectivity.  Just not sure how anyone can look at this offense and see something good?

Cam has done what he can, but teams have this vanilla bean O figured out.  Presnap is a frantic mess, play developement opperates on geological time, and most passing plays are so obvious a 6 year old can see it coming.

2 weeks into the season and we're 2-0 despite awful execution, blocking and a rusty QB1. I won't panic until we don't put up a few TDs on the Saints. Then it's time to worry.

[L-TownCat]

8 minutes ago, Dex said:

2 weeks into the season and we're 2-0 despite awful execution, blocking and a rusty QB1. I won't panic until we don't put up a few TDs on the Saints. Then it's time to worry.

Absolutely agree with all that as it pertains to this season. 

Big picture, a better offensive philosophy and play calling in general would net this team multiple shots at rings.

[Dex]

Just now, L-TownCat said:

Absolutely agree with all that as it pertains to this season. 

Big picture, a better offensive philosophy and play calling in general would net this team multiple shots at rings.

What kind of play calling? With our defense a ball control offense is what suits it best. If Cam doesn't make those two overthrows we aren't having this conversation. Keep in mind we were without our starting center against arguably the best defensive line in the NFL. Shula has called some great game over the years and every now and again he'll call some bone headed plays. But he's not the entire reason the offense has struggled this year.

[Darvinsun]

2 hours ago, SOJA said:

Can't blame shula too much for not deviating in the superbowl what got us to 15-1. I can blame horrible game changing calls by the refs and Mike Remmers 

But whose decision was not to change the playcalls by not have long developing plays or give remmers help. We say in several games that remmers had problems with edge rushers atl game exposed it and what did he think von was going to do...then last yr had a goid plan with remmers 1st half went away from it 2nd or woulf not adjust to what denver did..Cam beat up again...this is happening way to often..Shula or Rivera it may be both but its not looking good for either one..we have these quick receivers and yet i haven't  seen many pass plays for them.. i don't think Cam is 100%. This feels like last yr.

[Darvinsun]

1 hour ago, Hallin'AllDaeDae said:

Shula's ideal offense is beautiful football. You smash the fug out of the other team on the ground, that's the given. Then, you get big chunk plays in the pass game. Soon, you can at will run, or pass.

20 play drive against Chiefs that ended in two sacks last year anybody ? Or were those two sacks Shula's fault ?

Shula's offensive philosophy is perfect for the Panthers

When your line can not open holes or hold blocks you have to adjust. Any one can have a plan but if you do not have the tools are people to run it you have to come up with something else..if you study the defense that is playing you and you know they have a monster defense you have to study what areas of weakness they have and exploit it.  Not just say we going to do what we do bc believe me they have studied.

We came out of no where 2015 and surprised many teams. Some teams studied and did not have the personel to stop us. That has now changed..so we need to change.

[Darvinsun]

1 hour ago, rmoneyg35 said:

Did Shula fumble the ball twice resulting to touchdowns? We probably would have won if Cam didn't fumble the ball. Hell he could of still thrown the interceptions and we would have still had a good chance of winning. As bad as Shula is we still had a chance of winning.

Who caused the fumble was it Remmers man? 

[beastson]

All facts.

Shula proceeded to throw out his playbook and the offense went garbage.