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As far as Funchess goes...

Jeremy Igo

By Jeremy Igo,
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2 hours ago, sanjay_rajput said:

And still was less productive than Benjamin while having 14 more snaps

Samuel needs to get Funchess snaps.

@Jimmy

Why are you repeating this?  Why would you belittle what was arguably his best day as a Panther (even though he put up 100+ yards during a game his rookie year)? Funchess not only exploited his side yesterday, he ran some good routes.

If anything, Samuel needs to get note snaps at the position that he was actually drafted for and theoretically will excel at and make defenses pay. In other words, the slot. If he is going to take anyone's snaps away, it should be Shepard's.

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On 9/18/2017 at 12:07 PM, sanjay_rajput said:

And still was less productive than Benjamin while having 14 more snaps

Samuel needs to get Funchess snaps.

It's time that you learn the old saying, "Numbers never lie, but they also never tell the full story."

Let's take this constant stat that you're fluffing your opinion with, the ole "HE HAD 14 SNAPS BUT DIDN'T PRODUCE AS MUCH!"

Let's analyze those snaps and see if that stat supports your argument, or if you're desperately trying to save your ego from admitting that you don't know poo about football.

11:59 - 1st Quarter - 3rd & 7 @ BUF 46
Panthers are in the shotgun with Olsen and CMC in the backfield, Byrd & Shepherd lined up on the left side of the formation while Funchess is to the right. Bills show double-A gap pressure pre-snap but bail. Shepherd runs a curl, Byrd a corner route, Funchess a fly route, Olsen stays in to block, CMC looks to chip but then releases up just past the line of scrimmage. Bills are in cover 2 zone, but DWill gets beat bad off the snap bad and as Byrd and Shepherd make their moves, Cam has to fend off the defender and then scrambles to his right. Funchess is open, but Cam is too busy having to scramble (looks like he was wanting to hit Byrd, as the easier read was to the left side of the field). CMC blocks as Cam scrambles, Shepherd runs across the field but is double covered. Funchess comes back, but Cam ends up scrambling for 15yds to the BUF 31 for a first down. Funchess did nothing wrong on this play and was open between the zones but due to DWill getting beat had no chance of the ball being thrown his way. Cam made a spectacular play with his legs.

9:01 - 1st Quarter - 3rd & 6 @ BUF 16
Shotgun with CMC in the backfield, Funchess to the left, Olsen, Shepherd, and Byrd to the right. This is the play after KB was hit. Kalil doesn't block the DE nor does CMC chip him, giving the defender a free release at Cam. He's looking Funchess' way who is running an out route and open. Cam is forced to roll out to the left to avoid the sack and ends up throwing it away in order to preserve the opportunity for a FG rather than force a possible INT. Once again, poor protection results in the play having no time to develop and forcing Cam to scramble. This has nothing to do with Funchess not being able to capitalize on a snap without KB and everything to do with poo protection just like the first snap without KB.

6:29 - 1st Quarter - 3rd & 3 @ CAR 21
Shotgun with CMC in the backfield, Byrd + Olsen to the left, Shep + Funch to the right. Funchess releases inside the CB while Shep leaks to the right. Williams drops back into coverage in front of Olsen who is covered by both the DL + LB. Funchess is wide open when Cam looks his way and gets ready to fire, but pressure from the right side forces him to pull the ball down and scramble. He throws it to Funchess while on the move who comes down with it on the CAR 36 for 15yds and a first down. This is Funchess' 3rd snap without KB and for a 3rd time pressure gets to Cam from the edge and forces him off his spot. However, Funchess still gets the ball and makes the catch. We are already 3 snaps in and Funchess has already made something out of it despite the consistent pressure on Cam.

5:41 - 1st Quarter -  1st & 10 @ CAR 36
No KB again. Cam throws it to Funchess who is WIDE OPEN but Tre'Davious White makes a great athletic play and is able to leap & deflect the ball. Did I mention that Kalil was almost back-to-back with Cam when he threw it like an old Batman episode? 4 snaps without KB, pressure on Cam all 4 snaps. Funchess would have caught the ball at the BUF 45 with just Poyer to beat who was coming in from back and to the left (back... and to the left... back... and to the left... back... ok sorry, my spectrum is showing).

3:12 - 1st Quarter - 3rd & 3 @ BUF 37
Read option with CMC who takes it left side. Funchess is to the right. Running play. On a positive note, this is the first time Funchess was in on a play without KB on the field where there wasn't pressure on Cam. CMC gets 2 yards and the team punts on the next play. 5 snaps.

15:00 - 2nd Quarter - 1st & 10 @ BUF 47
I-formation with Funchess in the slot and Olsen wide ride, Byrd wide left, Dickson at FB and JStew dotting the I. The result of the play? A 24yd completion to Funchess to the BUF 23. No pressure on Cam. This is looking really bad for you.

12:54 - 2nd Quarter - 3rd & 19 @ BUF 32
Cam was sacked the previous play and Olsen broke his foot. Cam gets sacked again before the routes can develop and loses 7 yards. 7 snaps, 1 of them a run play, 5 of them with Cam under duress. The one passing play he wasn't getting molested he connected with Funchess for 24yds (and caught another one for 15yds despite Cam being chased). We're halfway thru those snaps and your claims that he did nothing with them is beginning to look really, really fuging stupid.

5:28 - 2nd Quarter - 1st & 15 @ BUF 40
Cam connects with Funchess for 21yds to the BUF 19 on the left side, but the play is called back on a holding penalty against DWill. 8 snaps, 3 of those where he isn't under pressure (and 1 of those was a run). Funchess has made 3 catches for a total of 60yds, but is only going to be credited with 2 for 45yds. Before we start shitting on DWill too, the holding call against him was SUPER ticky tacky imo.

5:04 - 2nd Quarter - 1st & 25 @ 50
Cam has plenty of time and hits Funchess who makes a spectacular leaping catch for 21yds to the BUF 29. 9 snaps (1 running play, 1 negated by a holding penalty, pressure on all but 2 of the rest of those). 4 catches for 81 yds (only credited with 3 for 66 due to the DWill hold). 

1:30 - 2nd Quarter - 1st & 10 @ CAR 38
Funchess part of the bunch formation to the left. Buffalo blitzes a CB. Funchess gets behind the S and the CB, but Cam gets rid of the ball in 3sec to CMC as the blitz gets picked up for 10yds and a first down. 10 snaps. Play looks like it was designed to go to CMC the whole way because Cam stared him down and hit him despite LB being tight in coverage.

1:13 - 2nd Quarter - 1st & 10 @ CAR 48
Funchess is open the entire route, but Cam goes to hit Byrd though who is to the left of him. Byrd gets swallowed up by the CB and can't make the catch. 11 snaps.

0:19 - 2nd Quarter - 3rd & 25 @ CAR 33
Hand-off to Stew. 12 snaps, 2 of which are runs, 2 plays where it looks like they were designed to go to other players (CMC + Byrd), 1 play negated by a hold, pressure on Cam for 6 of the 7 remaining plays (1 of them being a sack). Despite this, Funchess has 3 for 66 (which could've been 4 for 81 w/o the hold).

8:22 - 3rd Quarter - 1st & 10 @ CAR 30
Hand-off to Stew. 13 snaps.

7:45 - 3rd Quarter - 2nd & 5 @ CAR 35
Funchess SHITS on his man with a stutter move at the top of his route and breaks inside. Unfortunately, Cam is already getting hit by Shaq Lawson just as Cam looks his way and gets ready to throw to him for what would have been at LEAST a 15yd gain and a first down. 14 snaps.

So... to recap...
-14 snaps
-3 of which were run plays.
-1 penalty negated a play
-2 plays designed to go to other players
-2 sacks
-5 snaps with pressure on Cam (not including the sacks)

Despite all of this, Funchess had 3 of his 4 catches for 61 of his 68yds (which should have been 5 catches for 88yds without the holding penalty).

Now wipe your mouth.

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1 hour ago, pantherphan96 said:

Maybe now the Huddle can stop shitting on a 23 y/o WR who was catching passes from a glorified kick returner in college only a couple years ago.

You aren’t actually using the “his college qb sucked” excuse for him are you? He also only played with Denard Robinson as his QB for the first half of his freshman year which was 5 years ago.

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On 9/18/2017 at 12:49 PM, joemac said:

We only need either Funchess or KB, not both of them together. We need somebody....anybody who can get some yards after the catch. Every fuging completion we get, the guy catches the ball with someone draped on him, then immediately falls down. I thought that's what we got Samuel and CMC for. It just seems that Cam/Shula cannot or will not employ short, quick hitting routes into our offense. It should become a staple of our O with guys like those 2. Instead, what we keep getting are deep out/seam routes to Funchess and KB. WTF??

It's because the club's (current) QB cannot execute those shorter routes and consistently overthrows and overpowers them. The tale has long been told in practices and small sessions. But of course, everyone blames Shula, and we all sit around whining about "coaching" this and "scheme" that - which none of you understands as well as you think anyhow - while Cam wastes another year of Shula's prime.

Did anyone ever stop to think that a professional NFL coach who grew up in coaching worlds might be familiar with mixed passing concepts? And that he might be scheming around a player's limitations? And that he's maybe screaming inside to show the world some modern football, but his personnel won't allow it? Do you know what it's like when everybody blames you and you know you can't do anything, and you can't say what's really wrong?

Until certain suits within the organization put football ahead of marketing, the Panthers will always fail. What do you think the protracted Gettleman standoff was really about? J Jerry is being led around by the nose and is increasingly isolated in a world of his own making.

We've escaped by the skin of our teeth so far, but the fun and games are over. This is most likely a 2-14 or 3-13 or 4-12 type of season.

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