Panthers Have No Interest in Shaun Smith

[monstercat]

Again MC is he better then what we have now?

How is Smith better than Hollis Thomas, aside from being younger? They were looking for a 1 technique tackle, and that's exactly what Thomas is, so what's the problem?

[KillerKat]

Just read through this thread. Everybody is acting like the Panthers are passing on the greatest player ever.

He's the best available DT on the market right now and has been for quite a while this off season. We have one of the worst groups of DTs in the NFL if not THE worst. It makes perfect sense for us to at least try to attempt to sign him. But then again, Fox and Hurney will always do the complete opposite of what makes sense.

[koolkatluke]

How is Smith better than Hollis Thomas, aside from being younger? They were looking for a 1 technique tackle, and that's exactly what Thomas is, so what's the problem?

What are hollis numbers the last 3-4 years. If i'm not mistaken he was hurt when he played for the saints and Philly. What has he done the last 4 years? He was good in the past but we are talking right now 10/8/09 who is the better player now.

[monstercat]

Why you have such a problem with Kris I don't know? You keep bringing him up. I'll tell you 1 thing When Kris didn't want too be here he still played and gave effort. Can you say the same for Pep?

Well, I only brought up Jenkins once, and that was because people were saying the same thing about him that they're saying about HT...that he's not as good as he once was.

Whatever, you're convinced that the Panthers refuse to get better just because they don't want your guy, but have you not wondered why nobody else wants Shaun Smith either, if he's so good?

[monstercat]

What are hollis numbers the last 3-4 years. If i'm not mistaken he was hurt when he played for the saints and Philly. What has he done the last 4 years? He was good in the past but we are talking right now 10/8/09 who is the better player now.

You don't sign a NT because he puts up good numbers, you sign him to hold the point and keep blockers off the LBers so they can put up good numbers. Hell Kemo never had good numbers either.

[R0CKnR0LLA]

He was released right before the season started, where most teams had already locked up the position and just wanted to keep the guys that had been through OTA, TC and preseason already with their teams. Even with that, six teams still contacted him so yeah, it's not like there's been zero interest.

Given that DT was already a weak spot on the team and we now have 3 DTs on IR it's pretty obvious he'd be an upgrade for us over the guys we have. Anyone arguing that we can't make the cap space or that he's not good enough is missing the point. The Panthers are passing him up for character concerns, they've already stated this.

[magnus]

Who the f**k here said he was great? Don't make up things. Smith is a big body that can take on blockers as well as apply some pressure. He would be an upgrade over Hayden who constantly gets pushed around.

he gets talked about as someone who'd radically improve. So, therefore at some point he may have done something on a football field that merits him being so highly regarded.

So, tell me what he did on the field. Back it up if you're going to get mad about it.

[KillerKat]

he gets talked about as someone who'd radically improve. So, therefore at some point he may have done something on a football field that merits him being so highly regarded.

So, tell me what he did on the field. Back it up if you're going to get mad about it.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SmitSh20.htm

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/K/KemoMa20.htm

I though people could do a simple search and find out themeselves.

When smith started in '07 and '08 he produced very well. In '07, he had the highest number of tackles Kemo has ever had and last year they had the same. He did this while playing in a 3-4 where all he had to do was take up blockers yet put up good tackle numbers. He would be a significant upgrade over anyone else we currently have. Probably including Kemo.

[magnus]

I've seen his stats plenty. I was waiting for someone to bother making an actual case that wasn't "but he's Shaun Smith!" or excuses for him pissing off two coaching staffs and punching a quarterback because a Pro Bowler here did that, too.

he had a solid year in 07. Out of six years. Fair enough, he's shown he can do it, occasionally.

[monstercat]

Check out this link about Smith. More importantly, read the comments from Browns fans at the bottom...http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2009/08/cleveland_browns_release_defen.html

This comment says it all...325 pounds of uselessness...gone!

Good decision.

[R0CKnR0LLA]

LOL Are you really trying to grade a players value based on some random comment from a disillusioned ex-fan?

Yeah, Panthers fans made similar comments when Jenkins left. Fans always talk bad about a player after their team kicks them to the curb, especially if that player was unhappy with the organization and took a swing at their pretty boy QB of the future.

[monstercat]

I'm just pointing out that not everybody thinks Smith is the greatest thing since sliced bread, and there just might be a good reason why the Panthers don't want him other than them just refusing to get better.

[Claws]

Why would they?

What? Do you really think could contribute to what we've already got going here?????

hahahahaha

[koolkatluke]

Why would they?

What? Do you really think could contribute to what we've already got going here?????

hahahahaha

The ? is can he contribute more then Nick Hayden, Burton, and Hollis? If the anwser is yes to either 1 of these players then why not give him a shot. Or you are not doing your best to put the best players on the field.