Today's offensive performance is on Cam

[Shonuff]

Just now, Castavar said:

Lol that's funny, but its more about personnel than Shula.  You have to have a running game in the NFL, we don't have that and haven't drafted for that.

[Ivan The Awesome]

cam played a decent first half. Second half... Ugh. Shula was mostly to blame

[mc52beast]

2 hours ago, WOW!! said:

Hell no it isn't.. Playcalling and Oline play way more than Cam..

You wasted 3 paragraphs for nothing..

So we can blame playcalling and the o-line for Cams continuing struggles in reading defenses... and missing wide open receivers

[Shonuff]

1 minute ago, Castavar said:

So what about the other 6 years?

only 4, don't you remember Chud?  When Cam was younger and crazy enough to do all that running.  You gotta be able to run the ball in the NFL at some point.

[Shonuff]

1 minute ago, NeedSumD said:

Get your on blast ear plugs out. You blamed the forbidden one of taking any blame in any situation.  He has to ignore the wide open check down so he can chunk it into triple coverage 30 yards down the field Damn you Shula

Again, what game were you watching?  You can only check down so much plus the Panthers have to effectively run the ball.   I don't think you fully have a grasp on how this thing actually works.  The problem today as poor calling and execution in the red zone, period.  Both on coaches and players,  they had opportunity score 20+ points in the NFL...that's more than enough.

[Castavar]

6 minutes ago, Shonuff said:

Lol that's funny, but its more about personnel than Shula.  You have to have a running game in the NFL, we don't have that and haven't drafted for that.

I call BS. Good OC can scheme good running games. The problem with Shula is he doesn't have an identity. He's never been an offensive guru that could come in and implement a good zone blocking scheme (like a kyle shanahan), as his history has shown. Everywhere he's gone he's been mediocre, dating back to his Alabama days. We have more than enough weapons to have a good offense, it's Shula that is the bottleneck at this point. I urge people to watch good offenses and the play designs/creativity they display. It's like night and day from Shula.

[CarolinaSamurai]

3 minutes ago, Shonuff said:

Again, what game were you watching?  You can only check down so much plus the Panthers have to effectively run the ball.   I don't think you fully have a grasp on how this thing actually works.  The problem today as poor calling and execution in the red zone, period.  Both on coaches and players,  they had opportunity score 20+ points in the NFL...that's more than enough.

Yeah I saw him checking down and reading the Defense just fine. I would say the blocking assignments were really badly handled but that's on Larson not Cam. 

[Shonuff]

5 minutes ago, Castavar said:

I call BS. Good OC can scheme good running games. The problem with Shula is he doesn't have an identity. He's never been an offensive guru that could come in and implement a good zone blocking scheme (like a kyle shanahan), as his history has shown. Everywhere he's gone he's been mediocre, dating back to his Alabama days. We have more than enough weapons to have a good offense, it's Shula that is the bottleneck at this point. I urge people to watch good offenses and the play designs/creativity they display. It's like night and day from Shula.

We have an identity...run run pass.  Cam wait to long for long route to develop, run, Cam scramble like hell then find somebody open down field....then back to run run pass.  Hey it's what we're build to do.  I do think he's creative, especially with Olsen but seems to depend on that keep pounding mantra in the red zone.  Wasn't he the OC two years ago when the O was lights out?  I know the D created a lot of opportunities.

[Shonuff]

4 minutes ago, NeedSumD said:

I concede and see your point as well. Everyone but Cams fault,  Like a post I seen earlier Cam had a decent first half and second half Damn you Shula LOL

Both actually had a pretty good day asides from the redzone.   They punch ball in twice hit a couple of field goals against a pretty stout  D and old D coordinator who know the plays like the back of his hand...this discussion isn't happening....but the red zone was the problem, otherwise not too shabby in my opinion.

[philit99]

26 minutes ago, Cover2 said:

You right about time but wrong about it being all cam's decision making skills

We have 2 jolly green giant WR  and everyone else  running  marathons for routes down field even Tom Brady would hold the ball long.

 

 

We should be short route, run the ball team but shula wants us to be home run ever play type of team where not that.

Valid point. Have to separation first.....

[Jackofalltrades]

It's on everyone who plays offense and the coaches too. Completely inept. 

[Shonuff]

2 minutes ago, NeedSumD said:

So your saying we should try throwing on 1st and goal from the 1?? 

Brady does it all the time...at least a little play action pass other than the obvious down, a bit of creativity but that's not us.  keep pounding.  McD knew exactly how the script would go....exactly.

[CarolinaSamurai]

2 minutes ago, NeedSumD said:

So your saying we should try throwing on 1st and goal from the 1?? 

No you don't run it up the gut where thier D is the strongest. You don't leave a edge guy unblocked either. And if you do run it, do so in jumbo with a push to the A gaps with a lineman pulling. Or run it to the right or left like Stewart's TD last game. Or idk QB sneak? Ffs there was tons of options and he picks the worst one.

[Shonuff]

1 minute ago, Jackofalltrades said:

It's on everyone who plays offense and the coaches too. Completely inept. 

I wonder what the Bills are saying about their offense?  It was just good D, the Panthers moved the ball, just simply didn't get TD which will get you beat in the NFL. Some of it was losing Olsen, some of it was the old D Coordinator knowing Panther tendencies and plays.