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Today's offensive performance is on Cam


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5 hours ago, FakePlasticTrees said:

Cam has always had problems with accuracy and post snap reads of the defense. Early on I had hope that his accuracy would improve even though QBS rarely radically improve their accuracy at the NFL level. That hope is gone. 

I am afraid that Cam Newton has peaked at a completion rate south of 60. 

He completed 63% of his passes today.

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Holy poo

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5 hours ago, ickmule said:

Cams inaccuracy and holding the ball for too long were most certainly a huge part of the problem. Honestly we should expect this now, it's what Cam does. He's done this all but one season.  

 

Cam started 2-6, and we got a FG out of it. He went 18-26 (That's 70% for you math challenged folks.) the rest of the way, and we got 2 more FGs out of it. So....it is a tad disingenuous to say the Cam was inaccurate.

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9 hours ago, London Loves Luke said:

I'll probably get flamed for this, and I hope that it's still just rust, but today's offensive issues were mainly on cam. Yeh there were blown protections but you expect a couple against a d-line like the bills but today cam missed multiple open throws (miss to mcafferey was inexcusable), Mis-read blitzes and failed to use his check downs when he needed to. 

We would have lost this game on any other day and a lot of that is on Cam. The annoying thing is some of it may be rust but other mistakes like reading corner blitzes and using his checkdownz are things he can work on off the field.

If it makes you feel better by all means flame this post and blame everyone else. I'm not saying everyone else on offence was blameless, but Cam needs to get better and soon, a QB of his calibre can not be the reason we lose games in the upcoming weeks.

I'm not gonna flame you. I just have to strongly disagree... yes the two overthrows were bad. Other than that he looked more like 2015 cam. He looked confident and in control. He was throwing strikes under pressure. He was also making great presnap reads and calling audibles that turned doomed plays into successful ones. The 5 sacks were not on him, it may have been 9 if he didn't escape... I counted 5 dropped passes one of which was in the endzone. The o line created no space for the run, and nearly got cam killed...The play calling was questionable at times.  We wouldn't have moved the ball one yard today without Newton. 

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5 hours ago, KendrickPanther said:

Cam did throw two touchdown passes that were broken up by terrific safety play from Poyer. 

It's also fair to say he missed more than one open receiver. 

We had some penalties for slow play calls, maybe that was Cam or maybe it was Shula, hard to say. Cam has been in the league long enough now if he doesn't feel a play call is coming in he should go ahead and run one. If Shula doesn't like it, he can get his call in faster.

 

I'm not sure why Ryan Kalil was on the bench but missing him and Greg did cause problems for us offensively. It did feel like McDermott was very very prepared for our offense, perhaps intel helped because most of our run plays where in critical condition before the ball handler got the ball.... Is that Shula's fault? Maybe, I think it takes a simple mind to assume its all Shula though.

Cam took a few sacks where he had men running open. He needed to let loose on passes, not scramble for a 14 yard loss. That is completely on him. 

Our offensive line had some costly holding Penalties. That is neither Cam nor Shula's fault. 

My only real beef with Shula was trying to run the ball inside with McCaffrey when he couldn't get the interior blocked. CMC can't use his talents without at least some space. 

The delay of games could have been a result of the equipment issues they we're having. Something wasn't working properly and was effecting the communication 

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Kalil was a turnstyle... the o line wasn't creating any room for the run. Questionable calls from Shula. I didn't like the 3rd and 19 playcall after the first sack. Looked like another slow developing pass play that resulted in the sack that took us out of fg range. Cams two overthrows were terrible. But besides that Cam is the only reason we were able to move the ball at all it seemed.

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If you are going to run against that stout defensive line.  Why in the world would you line up in an obvious run formation.  We have GD trees for WRs and two shifty slot guys in CMC and Samuel.    Spread the damn defense out and see what they protect.   Make the call at line and TD.   Shula thinks he is fooling someone with his freaking play calling.   He is abysmal.  

It is one of the most frustrating things about this team.  We have had QBs that have been good but with limitations.  We now have a freak of an Athlete on this team (actually 2 counting Peppers) and we have a OC that can't get out of his own way. We are wasting Cam's talent.  As much as everyone disliked or hated Chudz at least he could light up a scoreboard.  With our defense and the offense we had in Cam's first two season.  We'd be rockin.

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11 hours ago, London Loves Luke said:

I'll probably get flamed for this, and I hope that it's still just rust, but today's offensive issues were mainly on cam. Yeh there were blown protections but you expect a couple against a d-line like the bills but today cam missed multiple open throws (miss to mcafferey was inexcusable), Mis-read blitzes and failed to use his check downs when he needed to. 

We would have lost this game on any other day and a lot of that is on Cam. The annoying thing is some of it may be rust but other mistakes like reading corner blitzes and using his checkdownz are things he can work on off the field.

If it makes you feel better by all means flame this post and blame everyone else. I'm not saying everyone else on offence was blameless, but Cam needs to get better and soon, a QB of his calibre can not be the reason we lose games in the upcoming weeks.

You are right on.  He missed some throws, and he missed obvious blitzes.  You did get poo for it, but rest assured you are 100% correct in your post.

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8 hours ago, NeedSumD said:

I concede and see your point as well. Everyone but Cams fault,  Like a post I seen earlier Cam had a decent first half and second half Damn you Shula LOL

OK, let's say that KB didn't drop that pass for a TD, then let's say we QB sneak on 1st and goal.  Very different game and no one is in meltdown

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I wouldn't say its all on Cam.  The play calling was horrendous. We had two 2nd  1 situations and we run.  That is when you should do a playaction pass and go deeeeeep! But noooo, we run the ball and lose yards both times with the box STACKED! Ron is 2-5 or 6 as a head coach.  He's just not that good and Shula is even worse.  Cam did miss those throws, but we gotta do better calls

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Cam doesn't control play calling just the audibles. Stop putting so much on that man's shoulders. How quick we forget NOBODY is the same within the first year of shoulder surgery yet some expect Cam to be. Superman is a nickname not his real identity. Get a grip. His check down game was A1 last week. Stop that false narrative that he can't make check down throws.

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