Here to eat crow, and vent

[Toolbox]

Just now, Darvinsun said:

If he clears waivers can he go to our PS? Maybe they are banking that he clears. I like the kid but if it allows us to carry more wrs, safeties, rbs, linemen, or Cbs then im good with it.

Yea.. problem is that the panthers talked highly of armah in the media and still released him hoping he clears waivers.. has everyone forgotten about NE sniping our players on waivers over the last few years??

[Car123]

28 minutes ago, Toolbox said:

Yea.. problem is that the panthers talked highly of armah in the media and still released him hoping he clears waivers.. has everyone forgotten about NE sniping our players on waivers over the last few years??

Whoa, I thought Gettleman didn't make mistakes.

[TheSpecialJuan]

wtf was that?

[KendrickPanther]

Losing concerns me. Preseason performances do not. Threads like these are a bit too dramatic. Too much emotion and angst. You can point out strengths and weaknesses without coming off unstable. 

We have some flaws but most teams do. Most teams are worried about what will happen if their LT goes down. Or top Cornerback. Every year news stars emerge and old names fall. No one can talk about the Falcons chances without saying "if Julio stays healthy". 

Relax, clean your kitchen, get your hair cut, pay your bills. This time next week we will be enjoying the thrill of victory or posting threads like these.

[Gin and Juice]

There is only one way to gauge how successful a manager really is and that's by results! In the sport of football, results are wins! Plain and simple. Don't muddy the waters or make excuses when it comes to what positive results are in football. It's not how players feel or how fans feel in regards to how players were treated. Those thoughts are for losers!

It's 110% about winning. Just win! With that platform of properly weighing the success of a manager established.....how can any idiot possibly defend Hurney over Gettleman? Dave did more winning in 4 years, than Hurney did in 10 years. Those defending Hurney just come off as extremely weak minded individuals that just wanna hug and sing children's lullaby's in harmony. 

[Udogg]

12 minutes ago, Gin and Juice said:

There is only one way to gauge how successful a manager really is and that's by results! In the sport of football, results are wins! Plain and simple. Don't muddy the waters or make excuses when it comes to what positive results are in football. It's not how players feel or how fans feel in regards to how players were treated. Those thoughts are for losers!

It's 110% about winning. Just win! With that platform of properly weighing the success of a manager established.....how can any idiot possibly defend Hurney over Gettleman? Dave did more winning in 4 years, than Hurney did in 10 years. Those defending Hurley just come off as extremely weak minded individuals that just wanna hug and sing children's lullaby's in harmony. 

We have been more successful overall under Gettleman is true.  However we have experienced the same up/down that we experienced under Hurney.  Especially if you excuse the aberration that was the 7-8-1 playoff year.    

You and people like you are the reason people defend the Hurney's and Shula's around here.  You take legitimate gripes/beef and then add bull#$#$ to it.   Blame Hurney for not helping the secondary when in fact this team was already assembled by Gettleman over the free agency period.  Let's also not forget that Gettleman let our pro bowl shutdown corner go for basically nothing. Got himself fired for basically not doing a no brainer extention and adding some incentives to two our our best players. 

You got people going bats#$# over releasing a rookie FB who can block and catch passes, because we are using a TE who can block and catch passes.    Blaming Hurney for not signing big name FA when everyone knows Gettleman wouldn't have done it either.   Releasing our 6th WR for secondary depth...the bitc#$$$ about it?  

The reason it seems like we are hugging and singing children lullaby's is because you act like a bunch of fugging babies.  Wish I could put you all in timeout. 

[top dawg]

The Armah thing is just a weak excuse---any ol' excuse---to piss on Hurney. 

[Montsta]

I think we have a pretty good squad on paper. If this was Madden and it went simply by OVR rating I think there would be no reason for concern. I genuinely believe we do have a 10 or 11 win team.

The problem is we fired our GM right before training camp and brought back our old one. Let that sink in, WE ARE LITERALLY THE ONLY TEAM IN NFL HISTORY TO FIRE A GM, HIRE A GUY TO REPLACE HIM BECAUSE HE WAS A JOKE, AND THEN FIRE THAT GUY AND BRING BACK THE JOKE THAT WAS HERE FIRST. 

Why has this never happened before? Because it's a bad move that's why. Adding to this, Hurney is unable to make the tough decisions and is rolling into the year with two kickers instead of depth somewhere else? This is a joke. And Ron Rivera is a toothless tiger until the fire is on his ass for his job or the team is really rolling. He just sits on the sideline as Stoic Ron and is about as passionate as a stick of butter.

Add to this that we got a shiny new weapon in McCaffery (who I think has ROTY potential), but he had zero time to develop any sort of chemistry with Cam as a pass catcher (which is a huge part of his game), and I get concerned that we could come out of the gates really, really sluggishly.

Fielding probably the best o-line we have had in a number of years is the one thing that really has me excited, because great o-line means great Cam and great Cam can put a team on his back in a lot of games.

I think we can win the division and make a playoff push, but another patented Carolina Panthers 7-9 finish and a fired coach also wouldn't shock me if things don't go well.

I'll be optimistic and say 10-6 for our final record, maybe with a wildcard playoff run. 

[L-TownCat]

Be careful what you wish for...

 

*he says from a dark corner twirling his mustache 

 

 

PS: LOL @ Hurney.  

[Gin and Juice]

9 hours ago, Udogg said:

We have been more successful overall under Gettleman is true.  However we have experienced the same up/down that we experienced under Hurney.  Especially if you excuse the aberration that was the 7-8-1 playoff year.    

You and people like you are the reason people defend the Hurney's and Shula's around here.  You take legitimate gripes/beef and then add bull#$#$ to it.   Blame Hurney for not helping the secondary when in fact this team was already assembled by Gettleman over the free agency period.  Let's also not forget that Gettleman let our pro bowl shutdown corner go for basically nothing. Got himself fired for basically not doing a no brainer extention and adding some incentives to two our our best players. 

You got people going bats#$# over releasing a rookie FB who can block and catch passes, because we are using a TE who can block and catch passes.    Blaming Hurney for not signing big name FA when everyone knows Gettleman wouldn't have done it either.   Releasing our 6th WR for secondary depth...the bitc#$$$ about it?  

The reason it seems like we are hugging and singing children lullaby's is because you act like a bunch of fugging babies.  Wish I could put you all in timeout. 

3 division titles in 4 years make any and every counter argument you have to be pointless! You wanna excuse poor decision making that leads to losing then you are the perfect wine and cheese/fairweather fan that wants high player morale as opposed to victories 

And this has nothing to do with Armah. Couldn't careless about him going to the practice squad. This has everything to do with the mental midgets that think they can honestly defend Hurney on the basis of fielding a winning team

[WOW!!]

2 minutes ago, Gin and Juice said:

3 division titles in 4 years make any and every counter argument you have to be pointless! You wanna excuse poor decision making that leads to losing then you are the perfect wine and cheese/fairweather fan that wants high player morale as opposed to victories 

And this has nothing to do with Armah. Couldn't careless about him going to the practice squad. This has everything to do with the mental midgets that think they can honestly defend Hurney on the basis of fielding a winning team

While forgetting one was from a 7-8-1 team in the worst division in football..slow clap..

No he wants you to use the same logic when talking about Gman poor decision that lead to losing. 

[WOW!!]

9 hours ago, Udogg said:

We have been more successful overall under Gettleman is true.  However we have experienced the same up/down that we experienced under Hurney.  Especially if you excuse the aberration that was the 7-8-1 playoff year.    

You and people like you are the reason people defend the Hurney's and Shula's around here.  You take legitimate gripes/beef and then add bull#$#$ to it.   Blame Hurney for not helping the secondary when in fact this team was already assembled by Gettleman over the free agency period.  Let's also not forget that Gettleman let our pro bowl shutdown corner go for basically nothing. Got himself fired for basically not doing a no brainer extention and adding some incentives to two our our best players. 

You got people going bats#$# over releasing a rookie FB who can block and catch passes, because we are using a TE who can block and catch passes.    Blaming Hurney for not signing big name FA when everyone knows Gettleman wouldn't have done it either.   Releasing our 6th WR for secondary depth...the bitc#$$$ about it?  

The reason it seems like we are hugging and singing children lullaby's is because you act like a bunch of fugging babies.  Wish I could put you all in timeout. 

This is a reality check.. Thank you..

[Udogg]

2 hours ago, Gin and Juice said:

3 division titles in 4 years make any and every counter argument you have to be pointless! You wanna excuse poor decision making that leads to losing then you are the perfect wine and cheese/fairweather fan that wants high player morale as opposed to victories 

And this has nothing to do with Armah. Couldn't careless about him going to the practice squad. This has everything to do with the mental midgets that think they can honestly defend Hurney on the basis of fielding a winning team

So even though we STILL have not had bad to back winning seasons, I should still consider everything Gettleman did was correct even though in those 3 division titles in 4 years, 1 of those was a "historically" bad division and we made it in on 7-8-1.. just a game and half better than our 6-10 season we are coming off of. 

So if I don't' automatically assume everything Hurney does is bad and everything Gettleman did was good then I am a wine and cheese fair weather fan. Any defense of Hurney makes me a mental midget no matter what it is.  

Like I said before, legitimate gripes about roster construction are what this board is for.  Bad roster decisions (like rescinding your franchise tag on your pro-bowl shut down corner when you only have rookie CB's in a pass heavy division) deserve to be discussed.  Carrying 2 kickers into the season deserve to be discussed.  Going into the season with no FB on the roster discussed.  Blaming someone for the lost season and not 1 game has been played is insane.  I can see if you were legitimately tanking like the Buffalo Bills then ok.  

I mean even in your post..  it's like you are saying.. "I don't really care about the decision that was made, the problem is Hurney made it so it's automatically bad".   That's insane.  But I guess I should expect that, the whole country is filled with people like you....

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Gin and Juice]

6 minutes ago, Udogg said:

So even though we STILL have not had bad to back winning seasons, I should still consider everything Gettleman did was correct even though in those 3 division titles in 4 years, 1 of those was a "historically" bad division and we made it in on 7-8-1.. just a game and half better than our 6-10 season we are coming off of. 

So if I don't' automatically assume everything Hurney does is bad and everything Gettleman did was good then I am a wine and cheese fair weather fan. Any defense of Hurney makes me a mental midget no matter what it is.  

Like I said before, legitimate gripes about roster construction are what this board is for.  Bad roster decisions (like rescinding your franchise tag on your pro-bowl shut down corner when you only have rookie CB's in a pass heavy division) deserve to be discussed.  Carrying 2 kickers into the season deserve to be discussed.  Going into the season with no FB on the roster discussed.  Blaming someone for the lost season and not 1 game has been played is insane.  I can see if you were legitimately tanking like the Buffalo Bills then ok.  

I mean even in your post..  it's like you are saying.. "I don't really care about the decision that was made, the problem is Hurney made it so it's automatically bad".   That's insane.  But I guess I should expect that, the whole country is filled with people like you....

 

 

 

 

 

 

3 division titles in a row! Let that sink in! Something that Hurney never sniffed.

The decisions around this roster isn't what's driving me to comment. I'm expecting that now. I'm commenting because of those that are defending Hurley. It's impossible to actually do it. It's words without logic. Was Gettleman a GOD of GM's? Heck no! But he was 20x better than what we have and had a 75% division win rate with a 25% conference win rate. Hurney isn't in that league....not even close