Marty Hurney Vent Thread

[iamhubby1]

3 minutes ago, rico6 said:

Uh doood he's actually correct. 

 

Ok then, name all these Offensive players Hurndog is responsible for.

 

Cam, Olsen, Stewy, and Ryan are a great start. But they are far from a majority. And that is was @AceBoogie was stating. Giving Hurndog credit where it is deserved is fine. This however, is just not one of them.

[rico6]

2 hours ago, iamhubby1 said:

 

Ok then, name all these Offensive players Hurndog is responsible for.

 

Cam, Olsen, Stewy, and Ryan are a great start. But they are far from a majority. And that is was @AceBoogie was stating. Giving Hurndog credit where it is deserved is fine. This however, is just not one of them.

Okay. Who?

Who has Gettleman surrounded Cam with? It was only for a short lived 2015 season that Newton had an above average OL.

Instead of you Gettleman lot trying to find each failure and fault that Hurney is to be blamed for, how about first giving the man some good damn credit and be fuging objective.

Edit- Also, Hurney trading for and drafting 2 of this team's best players ever >> just about anything Gettleman's ever done for the team offensively.

 

[iamhubby1]

32 minutes ago, rico6 said:

Okay. Who?

Who has Gettleman surrounded Cam with? It was only for a short lived 2015 season that Newton had an above average OL.

Instead of you Gettleman lot trying to find each failure and fault that Hurney is to be blamed for, how about first giving the man some good damn credit and be fuging objective.

Edit- Also, Hurney trading for and drafting 2 of this team's best players ever >> just about anything Gettleman's ever done for the team offensively.

 

 

Wow. Go get em'. All that is well and good. The problem? That has nothing to do with what @AceBoogie said. Nor with what I responded to him about.

 

Maybe next time you could jump on me about something I actually said. Not something you want to attribute to me. Man, you Hurndoggerz are a thin skinned bunch. Heaven forbid one of the worse GMs to ever grace the planet not get the credit he deserves. LOL

 

Also, I love how you conveniently avoided naming the Offensive players Hurndog has on this team. But threw in a Defensive player to make it sound better. After all. That is the crux of this here debate. Offensive players Hurndog brought in.

 

 

 

 

[rico6]

10 minutes ago, iamhubby1 said:

 

Wow. Go get em'. All that is well and good. The problem? That has nothing to do with what @AceBoogie said. Nor with what I responded to him about.

 

Maybe next time you could jump on me about something I actually said. Not something you want to attribute to me. Man, you Hurndoggerz are a thin skinned bunch. Heaven forbid one of the worse GMs to ever grace the planet not get the credit he deserves. LOL

 

Also, I love how you conveniently avoided naming the Offensive players Hurndog has on this team. But threw in a Defensive player to make it sound better. After all. That is the crux of this here debate. Offensive players Hurndog brought in.

[iamhubby1]

12 hours ago, Marguide said:

Where was he wrong? 

What he said was fact. Cam, Olsen, and J Stew among the skill position players.

I am not a Hurney apologist, but he did assemble much of our core.

Or where do you think we would be without Cam and Luke and Greg and TD among others?

 

    Where was he wrong? Here, let's look at his post again. "You do know that the majority of our offensive production was drafted by Hurney right? Y'all make people here defend Hurney with the stupid poo y'all say"

 

    So I say again. There are 4 Hurndog players that contribute to our offensive production. How is that a majority?

 

    I think it is ironic that a guy can call out folks for being stupid. But can get away with posting what is in essence, a misleading, and fake news post.

 

    That is not a dig at Hurney. That is not praising Gman. That is just stating facts. Cam, Olsen, Stewy, and R. Kalil do not make up a majority of our offensive production.

[rico6]

Just now, rico6 said:

11 minutes ago, iamhubby1 said:

 

Wow. Go get em'. All that is well and good. The problem? That has nothing to do with what @AceBoogie said. Nor with what I responded to him about.

 

Maybe next time you could jump on me about something I actually said. Not something you want to attribute to me. Man, you Hurndoggerz are a thin skinned bunch. Heaven forbid one of the worse GMs to ever grace the planet not get the credit he deserves. LOL

 

Also, I love how you conveniently avoided naming the Offensive players Hurndog has on this team. But threw in a Defensive player to make it sound better. After all. That is the crux of this here debate. Offensive players Hurndog brought in.

Posting on this forum with a phablet is a pain.

I should be clearer with that statement. Hurney drafting Cam and trading for Olsen (2 of this franchise's best players in it's current history) >> just about anything Gettleman has done offensively.

[Moorgan]

4 minutes ago, iamhubby1 said:

 

    Where was he wrong? Here, let's look at his post again. "You do know that the majority of our offensive production was drafted by Hurney right? Y'all make people here defend Hurney with the stupid poo y'all say"

 

    So I say again. There are 4 Hurndog players that contribute to our offensive production. How is that a majority?

 

    I think it is ironic that a guy can call out folks for being stupid. But can get away with posting what is in essence, a misleading, and fake news post.

 

    That is not a dig at Hurney. That is not praising Gman. That is just stating facts. Cam, Olsen, Stewy, and R. Kalil do not make up a majority of our offensive production.

I don't really care about you guys arguing but I noticed this. Production is different than players. And I don't think it's a stretch to say the majority of the offensive production is Cam, Stew and Greg. I mean that's pretty standard right there. No one would really argue that. So, in that sense, the Hurney guys are the majority of the offensive production. Just thought I'd point that out.

[Jon Snow]

22 minutes ago, rico6 said:

Posting on this forum with a phablet is a pain.

I should be clearer with that statement. Hurney drafting Cam and trading for Olsen (2 of this franchise's best players in it's current history) >> just about anything Gettleman has done offensively.

2 great players in 10 years of failure is not a ringing endorsement.  Hell give me 10 years of top ten picks and I'm sure even I could beat that.  You guys need to think about that for a minute.  Why were we drafting in the top 10 so much?  Hurney had a lot to do with that.  Cam was also Ron's pick, not Hurney's.  Hurney's success, what little he had, was blind luck.

[rico6]

1 minute ago, Jon Snow said:

2 great players in 10 years of failure is not a ringing endorsement.  Hell give me 10 years of top ten picks and I'm sure even I could beat that.  You guys need to think about that for a minute.  Why we're we drafting in the top 10 so much?  Hurney had a lot to do with that.  Cam was also Ron's pick, not Hurney's.  Hurney's success, what little he had, was blind luck.

Gettleman hasn't had to pick in the top 10 as much because of Hurney's drafted/signed players lol.

[iamhubby1]

1 minute ago, rico6 said:

Posting on this forum with a phablet is a pain.

I should be clearer with that statement. Hurney drafting Cam and trading for Olsen (2 of this franchise's best players in it's current history) >> just about anything Gettleman has done offensively.

 

    That's why I always use my laptop. I am too dang old to go through all that with my tablet.

 

    We made it to the SuperB owl with 7 Gman guys on offense. But hey, folks still want to credit Hurndog for that too.

 

    M. Kalil, Norwell, Turner, Williams, and depth on the Oline. KB, Funch, Sheppard, Samuel, CMC at the skill positions.

 

    The vast majority of Offensive players are Gman guys. Suck it Hurndoggerz.

 

    I love that name. Hurndoggerz. lol Ima have to add it to my dictionary, so I don't have to see that stupid red line under it.

[rico6]

Just now, iamhubby1 said:

 

    That's why I always use my laptop. I am too dang old to go through all that with my tablet.

 

    We made it to the SuperB owl with 7 Gman guys on offense. But hey, folks still want to credit Hurndog for that too.

 

    M. Kalil, Norwell, Turner, Williams, and depth on the Oline. KB, Funch, Sheppard, Samuel, CMC at the skill positions.

 

    The vast majority of Offensive players are Gman guys. Suck it Hurndoggerz.

 

    I love that name. Hurndoggerz. lol Ima have to add it to my dictionary, so I don't have to see that stupid red line under it.

Agree to disagree.

[Khyber53]

We're 1-0 and we're bitching about how terrible the GM is. How terrible the OC is. How the owner is a moron who doesn't know a thing about football.

poo, if we lose a game, you twerps are going to literally crap your own pants in angst. You're doing more to turn the Panthers into the Browns than any of the folks mentioned above. Get a frikkin' grip and enjoy the games for once. At least enjoy the week after a win!

 

[NanuqoftheNorth]

1 minute ago, Moorgan said:

I don't really care about you guys arguing but I noticed this. Production is different than players. And I don't think it's a stretch to say the majority of the offensive production is Cam, Stew and Greg. I mean that's pretty standard right there. No one would really argue that. So, in that sense, the Hurney guys are the majority of the offensive production. Just thought I'd point that out.

While that may be true, Hurney failed to secure the serviceable talent/depth needed to build a competitive team around these players.  In the final analysis a GM is judged by his ability to field a competitive team.  During his last several years Hurney not only blew up the salary cap he failed miserably at fielding a winning team.  

Bottom Line: Gettleman, with one hand tied behind his back due to Cap restraints, achieved more in his 4 years here than Hurney managed to achieve in ten. 

[iamhubby1]

8 minutes ago, Moorgan said:

I don't really care about you guys arguing but I noticed this. Production is different than players. And I don't think it's a stretch to say the majority of the offensive production is Cam, Stew and Greg. I mean that's pretty standard right there. No one would really argue that. So, in that sense, the Hurney guys are the majority of the offensive production. Just thought I'd point that out.

 

    So let's address that word production. We had right at 5,500 yards last year. Olsen had a little over 1,000, and Stewy had a little less than 900. (Rushing, and Receiving together.) While the rest of the RB combined for almost 950 yards. (Rushing, and receiving.)

 

    So...out of 5,500 yards. Olsen, and Stewy combined for less than 2,000 of them. So? Does that look like the majority of our production? Not to me it doesn't.

 

    But...but...Cam. Cam is Cam. IMO, probably a HOF talent. Hurndog gets credit for not effing that one up.

 

    Trying to give Olsen, and Stewy all the credit does a disservice to the rest of that offense. KB, Funch, CMC, Samuel, and Sheppard all are an important part of this offense.