The Cardinals are trying to trade for Andy Lee

[Harbingers]

44 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

What I've had to keep reminding people is that GMs build rosters of 53 players, not 5, 10 or a dozen.

Having ten great players doesn't mean jack s--t if the total roster isn't good enough to win. Hurney's rosters we're only good enough for three out of eleven years.  Gettleman's rosters equaled that in his first three seasons.

If you wanna say "yes, with Hurney's core" you might wanna remember two things: Hurney also had "Hurney's core" and couldn't win with them, and two of his three winning seasons arguably came with Seifert's core.

In yet we are still stuck with him somehow. 

That is exactly why I don't like Hurney. The previous responses are all exactly why I don't like Hurney. 

He needs to get his ass back to radio. 

The whole situation is like... like... bring a 3 time backrupted, tax evasioning, self proclaimed billionaire as the president of the united states. Oh poo! 

[pantherphan96]

Trading low on Lee. Dumb.

[cookinbrak]

If you consider a punter a valuable weapon, you've already lost.

[Saca312]

Just now, cookinbrak said:

If you consider a punter a valuable weapon, you've already lost.

So I guess you'd rather go back to the ol' days of Nortman?

[TheSpecialJuan]

wut

[Seltzer]

Just now, Saca312 said:

So I guess you'd rather go back to the ol' days of Nortman?

Exactly... We lost 6 games by 3 points or less last year, so I definitely would say an elite punter and/or kicker could have been the difference last year, and a lot of years for that matter.

Andy Lee was having a Pro-Bowl/ All-Pro season last year before he got hurt (albeit a small sample size).

[Amos Moses]

3 hours ago, Hogmolliesmaht said:

Nope. What I understand is that you can't change the past, and that trading Andy Lee makes sense right now. Why is this so difficult for you?

But wouldn't you want to either improve your position or stick with what you've got? Especially when you've got a punter of Lee's caliber. There's no sense in taking a loss here. 

[TheSpecialJuan]

Put all 4 up for trade and see who gives you the best deal

[TCon]

Palardy more upside.  Those of you who are going off of last year's stats know nothing about punting, or you did not watch any Panther games to notice that a ton of Palardy's punts were around the 50 yard line killing his average - or both.  And Lee is coming off a year in which he was the worst punter in the NFL at giving up return yards per punt - at almost 15 yards per return.  You guys are not out there watching both perform - if Lee is on the trading block it is because the Panthers like Palardy a lot and know the only way they can get anything for a guy they might cut in 4 days is to move him now. 

[Hogmolliesmaht]

42 minutes ago, Amos Moses said:

But wouldn't you want to either improve your position or stick with what you've got? Especially when you've got a punter of Lee's caliber. There's no sense in taking a loss here. 

Well yeah, if somebody is willing to trade a 4th or higher you jump all over it, but what team is desperate enough to do that when they know that one of these punters is going to get cut anyway? The only possible leverage we have is that Andy Lee has been around long enough that he doesn't have to go through waivers and can sign with any team he wants if he gets cut. 

[Ace_Aladdin]

1 hour ago, TCon said:

Palardy more upside.  Those of you who are going off of last year's stats know nothing about punting, or you did not watch any Panther games to notice that a ton of Palardy's punts were around the 50 yard line killing his average - or both.  And Lee is coming off a year in which he was the worst punter in the NFL at giving up return yards per punt - at almost 15 yards per return.  You guys are not out there watching both perform - if Lee is on the trading block it is because the Panthers like Palardy a lot and know the only way they can get anything for a guy they might cut in 4 days is to move him now. 

They don't like being wrong and will swing poo at you to make themselves feel better.

BTW Funchess stats shows that he is not a #2 WR so we already know one thing. 

[Amos Moses]

1 hour ago, Hogmolliesmaht said:

Well yeah, if somebody is willing to trade a 4th or higher you jump all over it, but what team is desperate enough to do that when they know that one of these punters is going to get cut anyway? The only possible leverage we have is that Andy Lee has been around long enough that he doesn't have to go through waivers and can sign with any team he wants if he gets cut. 

No I completely agree. I believe Lee is as close to a sure thing as far as punters go which would should encourage more interest and willingness to deal. It's certainly a long shot though

[cookinbrak]

2 hours ago, Saca312 said:

So I guess you'd rather go back to the ol' days of Nortman?

No, I'd rather concentrate on getting first downs.

[Udogg]

Lee is a fugging weapon..  Parlady is decent.   

Keep Lee, get what you can for Parlady.