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The Cardinals are trying to trade for Andy Lee

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Just now, Hogmolliesmaht said:

His numbers are barely lower than Lee's, so what are you looking at?

I'm looking at the number of times Lee was pinning the opposition inside the 10 before he was injured. Not seeing the same from Palardy. As bad as our ST coverage tends to be that is huge

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1 minute ago, Hogmolliesmaht said:

His numbers are barely lower than Lee's, so what are you looking at?

As of this season 3 games Palardy has better numbers and 1/4 of the cost.  Andy Lee is still a good punter but possibly still dealing with injuries or effects of injury from last year.  If they Panthers don't think they can get 16 full games out of him...

get something for him.

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Just now, Camp Fodder said:

I'm looking at the number of times Lee was pinning the opposition inside the 10 before he was injured. Not seeing the same from Palardy. As bad as our ST coverage tends to be that is huge

Palardy seems to be improving though and he's a lot younger and cheaper. Plus, he's left footed which can mess with returners and cause mistakes. For sure, one of them is about to be cut if we can't make a trade, so why not try to get another draft pick instead of just cutting a guy? Even if it's a low pick, it's currency for a possible future trade.

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5 minutes ago, Krovvy said:

Oh snap, Hurney traded seventh round picks for players that have made the Panthers roster going on five years now? Damn son.

In Marty's Credit he does have a history of good/decent trades:

2002: traded pick 67 for 75 and 145 pick 75 was Will Witherspoon and RB Kyle Johnson (bump) Cincy drafted TE Matt Schobel: Win Hurney

2002: Traded Jay Williams (Who?) for Al Wallace and a 4th round pick 2003. Win Hurney

2007: traded pick 14th and 191st pick for 25th 59th and 146th. Drafting Jon Beason, Matt Kalil and LB Tim Shaw: Win Hurney

2008: traded 43rd, 109th, and 28th overall 1st round 2009 for Jett Otah (no further explantation) Huge L Hurney, still drafted JStew, Charles Godfrey, Dan Connor, Gary Barnidge, Nick Hayden, Geoff Schwartz, and Mackenzy Bernadeau.

and Of course a third round pick to Bears for Greg "Freaking" Olsen which the Bears drafted FS Brandon Hardin.

Hurney has also traded all of the major players in our history for the past 10 years.

He did put us in CAP hell for the DeAngelo and JStew contracts, but at that time they were justified "kinda" with Double Trouble having that amazing year.

People too hard on Marty IMO.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Krovvy said:

The guy in charge traded for Greg Olsen. It's not like he traded a fourth for a old punter with a large contract.

He also traded future draft picks to draft Everrette Brown, Jeff Otah, Armanti Edwards, and attempted to trade what would become Cam Newton for Jimmy Clausen...

So yeah, He made one good trade and like 8 terrible ones.

Broken clock yadda yadda. 

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48 minutes ago, Hogmolliesmaht said:

I don't spend one second of my day worrying about what Hurney did back then. I do worry about what he might do now though.

So you don't understand that past moves can limit or effect how one can go about future business. Got it.

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2 minutes ago, Hogmolliesmaht said:

Nope. What I understand is that you can't change the past, and that trading Andy Lee makes sense right now. Why is this so difficult for you?

If we can get back a pick that Gettleman pissed away you get it back.

Lee played NINE games last year and if Palardy has shown he's just as capable you need to move on. Why you ask, well because if we cut Lee NEXT year we save 2 million. Is Lee really going to be THAT big of a difference maker this year that we it's worth adding punter to the list of needs next year after we cut him? Nope. 

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1 minute ago, *FreeFua* said:

If we can get back a pick that Gettleman pissed away you get it back.

Lee played NINE games last year and if Palardy has shown he's just as capable you need to move on. Why you ask, well because if we cut Lee NEXT year we save 2 million. Is Lee really going to be THAT big of a difference maker this year that we it's worth adding punter to the list of needs next year after we cut him? Nope. 

I think it's a little strong to claim that Gettleman "pissed away" that pick. We were fairly desperate for a punter and Lee was the best would could hope to get in any transaction, but yeah. 

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1 hour ago, E CaT PanTHer 2 said:

Derek Anderson, Jonathan Stewart, CAP, Andy Lee, and Devin Funchess for David Johnson

make it happen Marty

Yeah, another RB. Actually Marty probably drew this up, but the idea of Derek back in Phoenix got shunned upon.

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26 minutes ago, Cracka McNasty said:

He also traded future draft picks to draft Everrette Brown, Jeff Otah, Armanti Edwards, and attempted to trade what would become Cam Newton for Jimmy Clausen...

So yeah, He made one good trade and like 8 terrible ones.

Broken clock yadda yadda. 

Has any of Dave's draft trade ups not been busts so far?

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1 hour ago, Hogmolliesmaht said:

Who cares? The only thing that matters now is what they do now.

lol yeah who cares that we lost our second Super Bowl, and then followed it up with a 6-10 season, amirite?

Do you even read your posts?

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