Possibility of no fullbacks making the team

[Catufb85]

I've watched every preseason came and keep up with Panthers daily.  How could I have miss Panthers using Dickson at fullback... also a player huddle wants to cut for past 2 years now making a position change..

[Ace_Aladdin]

19 minutes ago, RoaringRiot said:

Right...but they're reporting on what they are seeing, hearing, and putting logic behind their suggestions based on all of those things. 

Meanwhile the Huddle says: of course we'll have a FB, we always have and how else could we possibly run the I-formation 

Huddlers may not have much access as reporters but you can still get a gist based on the interviews and videos on Panthers.com 

BTW Panthers always carried a FB even though they where not the  prototypical mold.

Richie Brockel & Tolbert

Armah could play similar role that of Brockel where he is a hybrid TE/ FB

 

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First, we have to define the terms. Tight end is as broad a category as "wide receiver", and there are clear distinctions for the latter term. As Patriots fans, we've become extremely familiar with the concept of a slot receiver and comparing their value to that of a standard outside receiver just doesn't do the position justice. In addition to the slot role, there's also the X (who you might consider a traditional #1 receiver) and the Z (a more moveable chess piece).

Similar for the tight end spot. There's the "Y" tight end, which is the name for the in-line tight end, and then there's the "F" tight end, who is comparable to the Z; the F is moved around the offense from slot receiver, to fullback, to even wide receiver.

https://www.patspulpit.com/2014/4/14/5613442/y-or-f-which-tight-end-do-the-patriots-need

 

 

[Ace_Aladdin]

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@Jeremy Igo

@KB_fan

Hey why so jelly ?

Do you not like the fact we are using the 2 TE set a lot just as I predicted

 

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First, we have to define the terms. Tight end is as broad a category as "wide receiver", and there are clear distinctions for the latter term. As Patriots fans, we've become extremely familiar with the concept of a slot receiver and comparing their value to that of a standard outside receiver just doesn't do the position justice. In addition to the slot role, there's also the X (who you might consider a traditional #1 receiver) and the Z (a more moveable chess piece).

Similar for the tight end spot. There's the "Y" tight end, which is the name for the in-line tight end, and then there's the "F" tight end, who is comparable to the Z; the F is moved around the offense from slot receiver, to fullback, to even wide receiver.

 

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BILL PARCEL BREAKDOWN  AT NFL NETWORK

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-playbook/09000d5d80c49f6c/Playbook-Billick-on-2-tight-end-sets

 

- In typical 2 TE set you are in a spread alignment with TE on each side, this allows you to run either outside or inside zone run play based on the DE alignment.

- Next it allows you to take one of the TE and put him in the I-Formation as FB,  this gives the offense a hard I-Running game wether it's ISO or Power.

 

 

- The real benfit of having a complete TE like Greg Olsen & OJ Howard is the ability to go to 3 WR set  by flexing either TE on weak or strong  side based on defense. By spreading the defense you can run with either lighter box or attack the mismatch defender on the TE. 

-Whether seeing the # count  is ideal for running play or audibling  to a 3 or 4 wide  aligment that forces defenses into nickel perssonel or passive the versatility of the 2 TE set will allow the offense to be put in the most ideal formation while still allowng it to set physical tone  and control the tempo of the game. 

 

[RoaringRiot]

36 minutes ago, Catufb85 said:

I've watched every preseason came and keep up with Panthers daily.  How could I have miss Panthers using Dickson at fullback... also a player huddle wants to cut for past 2 years now making a position change..

Not sure - just go back to the first half of the Jags games for starters. Young and Armah didn't get an offensive snap until the second half with the 3s. 

[Catufb85]

9 minutes ago, RoaringRiot said:

Not sure - just go back to the first half of the Jags games for starters. Young and Armah didn't get an offensive snap until the second half with the 3s. 

Good to know. How did he fair at fullback. 

[RoaringRiot]

3 minutes ago, Catufb85 said:

Good to know. How did he fair at fullback. 

He looked good blocking. He had the lead block on CMCs TD in TN too. That's why this conversation is even taking place. Paired with the lack of snaps for the FBs

[heel31ok]

2 hours ago, RoaringRiot said:

Not sure - just go back to the first half of the Jags games for starters. Young and Armah didn't get an offensive snap until the second half with the 3s. 

that's crazy...keep Young and Armah and let Dickson walk...Armah can block and catch and run a little...

[RoaringRiot]

Luis Moreno  just said on the radio he doesn't believe the Panthers will keep a fallback. 

 He also said he believes corn will start the year on the PUP, but that's a different thread 

[Jeremy Igo]

It looked like they used Young on blocking downs and Armah on passing downs. 

 

May not speak too well of their confidence in Armah's blocking ability yet. 

[TheSpecialJuan]

16 minutes ago, RoaringRiot said:

Luis Moreno  just said on the radio he doesn't believe the Panthers will keep a fallback. 

 He also said he believes corn will start the year on the PUP, but that's a different thread 

interesting 

[RoaringRiot]

Szokie just said he thinks they'll keep Armah

[Jeremy Igo]

If they don't keep a fullback I will be shutting down the huddle for a week in solidarity. 

[Jeremy Igo]

Maybe they plan on using Dickson until Armah gets up to speed. 

 

Ugh

 

This all has be frazzled. 

 

FU... @RoaringRiot

[RoaringRiot]

2 minutes ago, Jeremy Igo said:

Maybe they plan on using Dickson until Armah gets up to speed. 

 

Ugh

 

This all has be frazzled. 

 

FU... @RoaringRiot

Don't get mad at me I'm on Team Armah. I just don't see it though