The Browns are trying to move Joe Haden

[Jangler]

can we just call the Browns the Poops by now?

[Saca312]

But fwiw:

 

[Jangler]

Just now, Hogmolliesmaht said:

He's better than Haden, at this point. Teams don't just cut name players for no reason. It amazes me that some of you haven't figured that out by  now.

this is the Browns, you can't trust or discount anything coming out Cleveland. 'cept maybe Drew Carey.

[Hogmolliesmaht]

Just now, Jangler said:

can we just call the Browns the Poops by now?

I kind of like what the Browns are doing. They loaded up on quality draft picks and they are changing the culture. It will pay off in the next couple of years.

[Hoenheim]

Change the thread title since he was released ! I bet hed still be an upgrade over worely  Start Haden and Bradberry and have Worely as the backup. 

[Saca312]

1 minute ago, Jangler said:

this is the Browns, you can't trust or discount anything coming out Cleveland. 'cept maybe Drew Carey.

Their GM and roster management has been exceptional lately. The ownership is questionable, but their coaching & FO isn't.

[Jangler]

Just now, Hogmolliesmaht said:

I kind of like what the Browns are doing. They loaded up on quality draft picks and they are changing the culture. It will pay off in the next couple of years.

yeah, X's 20...

I've always been a closet Browns fan, but even I'm sh1tting in closet by this point.

[Saca312]

Just an FYI: Haden graded out worse than Worley on PFF.

Let that sink in.

[Jimmy]

A lot of a CB's success is due to what is in front of him and Haden hasn't had poo in front of him for years. With our front 7 I believe he'd be an immediate asset to our DB corps. He's only 28.  The only issue is the money.

[Hogmolliesmaht]

3 minutes ago, Saca312 said:

Just an FYI: Haden graded out worse than Worley on PFF.

Let that sink in.

Yeah, he hasn't been healthy since 2015 and he's guaranteed $4 million this season. He would be due $11 million if he reaches incentives. People have been screaming for them  to cut Dickson to free up less money than the $4 million.

[Catufb85]

Haden struggled becuz browns front 7 was bad. When you can't pressure QBs makes any CB look bad. Worley struggled with our front 7.  Haden would benefit in our scheme and our front 7.  Norman type big CB. 

[jumpman910]

2 minutes ago, Saca312 said:

Just an FYI: Haden graded out worse than Worley on PFF.

Let that sink in.

Any football fan would've known that without you posting it, but like people who ONLY watch panthers games and not football in general try to tell you something different.  They're goin off the name Haden use to have, he's had one of the quickest rises and falls as an elite corner that I've ever seen. 

Now with that said I'm not opposed to bringing him in because regardless of who people think is better between him and worley our depth sucks. 

[jumpman910]

1 minute ago, Catufb85 said:

Haden struggled becuz browns front 7 was bad. When you can't pressure QBs makes any CB look bad. Worley struggled with our front 7.  Haden would benefit in our scheme and our front 7.  Norman type big CB. 

Worley was also a rookie, not many rookie corners set the world on fire. For as Elite a moniker that Marcus Peters has, he got picked on at times and looked bad. Point is you have to give guys time to grow. Peters INT also got inflated by 2/3 because he picked off some awful and lame duck reads by Peyton that year,. 

Landon Collins had an atrocious rookie season, the Giants didn't give up on him and in year two after a change to the other safety position he was an ALL-Pro. 

I'm not saying that Worley will turn into an All-pro shutdown corner but he also needs the time to improve and develop like every other nfl player

[Devil Doc]

we have Captain.... we dont need Haden..