Patriots Have Released DE Kony Ealy - Claimed By NYJ

[Don137]

The Patriots really are not better talent evaluators than any other team. Brady is so good he makes people forget their mistakes.

[Seltzer]

1 minute ago, Don137 said:

The Patriots really are not better talent evaluators than any other team. Brady is so good he makes people forget their mistakes.

This. Bellichick is a an all-time great coach who also has the best QB ever. Take away those 2 things and he is below average in terms of drafting/ signing players

[csx]

1 minute ago, Seltzer said:

This. Bellichick is a an all-time great coach who also has the best QB ever. Take away those 2 things and he is below average in terms of drafting/ signing players

That's debatable. They win and it has nothing to do with ball pressure. They find non star players everywhere all the time. They create greats.

[rayzor]

i don't know about the whole locker room cancer thing....guess it depends on what you mean.

if you mean an entitled bum who doesn't feel like he needs to put in work ad can't be motivated to do poo and that being a drag on a locker room full of people putting in 100%, then yeah...a cancer.

but i think, just like DWill, the coaching staff was tired of messing with him and the players just couldn't stand having him around. different reasons for npt wanting the guy around, but still if the team doesn't want you around, there's got to be a good reason. if the team gets rid of you, it's quite likely they don't want you back.

ealy will not be back they tried him as a project before and couldn't get poo out of him in regards for effort. would have been better had we drafted someone else, but even BB was snowed thinking he cold be motivated. we got rid of him for someone who looks to be a true stalwart on the OL for years. the dude puts in work and so far excels at everything he is challenged with and can play just about every position on the OL except for OC, which is fine. he's a true plug and play beast in 4 out of 5 positions on the OL.

give me that over a bum like ealy every day.

and keep bums like ealy away from a team trying to give everything they've got in practice and in games.

[Shocker]

So you people saying Gettleman screwed up drafting him think you could bat a 1000 draft picking.  He got something out of him and thats impressive.  Ealy is good enough but doesnt care.

[joeig3]

National Media- "And the Patriots take advantage of yet another team in a trade." 

Gettlemagic-

[TheRed]

It's interesting that the same posters who scream like banshees about Hurney's draft trades are patting themselves on the back about this debacle. I don't blame Gettleman for Ealy just having no heart, and being unmotivated. But those were question marks nonethless about him when we decided to gamble on taking him in the 2nd. Gettleman knew about it, everyone did, it's why nobody was dumb enough to draft him in the first. Wasting a high pick on yet another defensive player that has unfortunately become a colossal bust while our offensive line cost us a Super Bowl is a prime example of the mentality that led to a season like last year. We have poured a hell of a lot of resources into our defense, this better be at least a top 10 unit this season.

[Davidson Deac II]

As far as drafting him, all GM's have hits and misses.  And Defensive End was as much of a need as WR.  Had Kony E worked out, we wouldn't have needed to sign Peppers.  But yes, the trade by Gettleman was the right move, just hope the pick we got makes it worthwhile.

[AggieLean]

And we used a 2nd rounder on him, smh.

[Sam Mills Fan]

Has it been brought up yet what the Patriots gave up for Ealy? That "just 8 spots" had the exact draft value of an early 5th round pick that we got for absolutely nothing.

[MasterAwesome]

3 hours ago, Saca312 said:

While obviously the time dictates a lot, this is a trait that comes all too often. If he just runs it straight through on most of his routes, he'd actually have better production and imo would give me a better perspective on him.

They had so many screens to Landry that went nowhere.

 

Did you think Cam was overrated because he used to go for the big play instead of taking the 3-4 yard check-downs? Or when he would try to break tackles for a run instead of throwing the ball away, which oftentimes led to him taking sacks?? Landry is a gamer like Cam...they're not exactly "safe" players, they go for the big play.

[frash.exe]

1 hour ago, Seltzer said:

This. Bellichick is a an all-time great coach who also has the best QB ever. Take away those 2 things and he is below average in terms of drafting/ signing players

but what belichick does understand that almost every other coach doesn't is that the draft is much closer to a total crapshoot than anything there is a science to. and he has leveraged that. think of the socratic parodox. 

he came out of the ass end on this deal, but he didn't give up terribly too much. a win for the panthers and a push for new england since some of the moves they make just like this one work out for them. 

[TheRed]

I doubt this hurts the Patriots all that much either way.

But if you're looking into why they are so successful you don't really even need to look at their draft history. It begins and ends with the division they play in. Only 2 QB's besides Brady have won that division in the last near 20 years, that's Chad Pennington, and Matt Cassel.

[rayzor]

10 minutes ago, frash.exe said:

but what belichick does understand that almost every other coach doesn't is that the draft is much closer to a total crapshoot than anything there is a science to. and he has leveraged that. think of the socratic parodox. 

he came out of the ass end on this deal, but he didn't give up terribly too much. a win for the panthers and a push for new england since some of the moves they make just like this one work out for them. 

pretty much.

despite losing out in this and losing julian edlewhatever, he will will end up with his team going late into the playoffs, the AFCCG, and quite possibly the superbowl.

it's theirs to lose. it is every year.

i don't put it all on brady either. remember, they won 12 games one season with matt cassell in there.

it's the perfect match of evolving offensive system with QB led by one of the most ruthless coaches of all time.

it's a perfect storm every year.

and i hate it.

i want it to stop.

i want this team to be the one that does it.