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1 hour ago, Jimmy said:

Anyone thinking Mcgregor has a chance needs to have their head examined.  This is his first professional boxing match. Men with multiple professional fights, years of boxing training couldn't beat Floyd. Mcgregor is slow and won't touch him. People saying he punches harder than are wrong too. Mcgregor punches the same as all MMA fighters...Floyd punches like a boxer and I guarantee it's harder than his. Mcgregor is going to get his ass kicked tonight.

This is a seriously uninformed post.  No insult intended, but you sound like someone that does not follow MMA at all, or if you do, don't realize all that goes into it.  McGregor is technically an amateur, but he is not inexperienced in boxing.  A huge part of MMA training, particularly for a stand-up fighter like McGregor, is in boxing.  And he's not just training with shlubs.  He has always trained in high level boxing (obviously not at the same level as Mayweather, but at a much higher level than you think), and is very skilled on his feet.

And slow is not something a knowledgeable fan would say about McGregor.  He'll probably have some trouble because Mayweather may be one of the best defensive fighters of all time, but don't underestimate McGregor's speed and quickness...in both his hands and feet.  And quite honestly, your statement about how hard he punches is ludicrous.  First of all, all MMA fighters do not punch with the same power...no more than all boxers do.  And yes, McGregor has outstanding power.  If he connects with Mayweather, he could end it early (those 8 oz. gloves are not Mayweather's friend).  And one thing Mayweather has never been known as is a power puncher.  He relies on his speed and quickness to wear opponents down before going for the kill.  So, the power comparison clearly is in McGregor's favor, and one reason I think you will see Mayweather try to stay on the outside and outpoint McGregor rather than get into any sort of close combat.  If he goes for the kill, it would likely be in the mid to late rounds after McGregor is gassed from chasing him. 

While I think Mayweather will out-box McGregor and get a decisive victory, don't sleep on the fact that McGregor will come at Mayweather from angles that Floyd is not used to.  While MMA and boxing have some similarities in the standup, the angles are completely different.  And McGregor has been known to confuse even the most skilled stand up fighters because his style is so difficult to replicate.  So, as experienced as Mayweather is at boxing, he likely hasn't seen punches coming from angles like he will see tonight.  He's a smart fighter, and should be able to adjust somewhat, but it may take him a few rounds, but in the meantime...

    

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Just now, Promethean Forerunner said:

There's clinching in boxing and he is indeed allowed impose his will at the ropes or corner. I've seen heavyweight boxers do the same exact thing. You keep assuming the extremes. That's not how it works. 

Yes, clinching being abused in the manner you seem to be implying is not allowed and will result in warnings, points being taken away and eventually disqualification if it goes that far. You can't clinch someone and carry him over to the corner. And after a clinch, they are broken up and moved a few steps away from each other.

 

I don't know what you mean by "impose his will." Please clarify. Of course a boxer, if they can get the opponent into the corner with footwork, can corner him against the ropes or in the corner and throw combo after combo to "impose his will." That is obviously allowed by the rules. But Mayweather will never ever allow that to happen against McGregor. Not even some of the best professional boxers could get Mayweather backed into a corner.

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5 minutes ago, Woodie said:

This is a seriously uninformed post.  No insult intended, but you sound like someone that does not follow MMA at all, or if you do, don't realize all that goes into it.  McGregor is technically an amateur, but he is not inexperienced in boxing.  A huge part of MMA training, particularly for a stand-up fighter like McGregor, is in boxing.  And he's not just training with shlubs.  He has always trained in high level boxing (obviously not at the same level as Mayweather, but at a much higher level than you think), and is very skilled on his feet.

And slow is not something a knowledgeable fan would say about McGregor.  He'll probably have some trouble because Mayweather may be one of the best defensive fighters of all time, but don't underestimate McGregor's speed and quickness...in both his hands and feet.  And quite honestly, your statement about how hard he punches is ludicrous.  First of all, all MMA fighters do not punch with the same power...no more than all boxers do.  And yes, McGregor has outstanding power.  If he connects with Mayweather, he could end it early (those 8 oz. gloves are not Mayweather's friend).  And one thing Mayweather has never been known as is a power puncher.  He relies on his speed and quickness to wear opponents down before going for the kill.  So, the power comparison clearly is in McGregor's favor, and one reason I think you will see Mayweather try to stay on the outside and outpoint McGregor rather than get into any sort of close combat.  If he goes for the kill, it would likely be in the mid to late rounds after McGregor is gassed from chasing him. 

While I think Mayweather will out-box McGregor and get a decisive victory, don't sleep on the fact that McGregor will come at Mayweather from angles that Floyd is not used to.  While MMA and boxing have some similarities in the standup, the angles are completely different.  And McGregor has been known to confuse even the most skilled stand up fighters because his style is so difficult to replicate.  So, as experienced as Mayweather is at boxing, he likely hasn't seen punches coming from angles like he will see tonight.  He's a smart fighter, and should be able to adjust somewhat, but it may take him a few rounds, but in the meantime...

    

And it'll be over with an overwhelming Floyd victory. Not as uninformed as you think. My kid fights for USA Boxing and these angles you speak of will be coming from Floyd that Mcgregor is unacusstom to. It may not end in a knockout and if so the score will be at least 10-9 every damn round. 

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7 minutes ago, Moorgan said:

I'll come back to this thread eventually. Might not be tonight but certainly tomorrow morning. Will be interesting to see what has happened. :shades:

Spoken like a true huddler. I'm happy to see the old schools posting in here during preseason. 

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I can't believe their are mouth breathers actually debating this fight in Conor's favor. Any of you nitwits want to get fleeced PayPal me a bet. 

Every smart bettor I know has money on Floyd.

While Conor was busy being a plumber in Ireland Floyd was winning boxing championships LOL the boxing knowledge gap is gargantuan 

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1 minute ago, Jimmy said:

And it'll be over with an overwhelming Floyd victory. Not as uninformed as you think. My kid fights for USA Boxing and these angles you speak of will be coming from Floyd that Mcgregor is unacusstom to. It may not end in a knockout and if so the score will be at least 10-9 every damn round. 

Nobody's arguing that Floyd won't outbox McGregor or win easily on points, but to say that Conor has no chance and act as if Floyd doesn't have to do anything more than just show up is silly.  I can tell you don't really know anything about McGregor, and likely MMA in general, but there is far more skill involved than you are assuming...especially for dominating fighters like McGregor.  

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3 minutes ago, Promethean Forerunner said:

You keep going back to the same argumentative point about this being a boxing bout. Yes, it is, however this is a circus fight too. If Connor isn't delusional, he won't try to outbox Mayweather. With 8 ounces gloves, the percentage of a rogue punch getting through his defensive shell shoots up 9%. Whether that be an uppercut or hook, it doesn't matter. The impact and severity will though. Connor won't be playing the point game here. In fact, I think McGregor will purposely tank points to the where he gets a final warning and be on the verge of getting DQed.

You can call it whatever you want, this is a boxing match and he won't last long pulling that stuff. Floyd has fought many great fighters who tried to KO him early and not go to points. It didn't work out for them, except De la Hoya, I do think he lost that one. 8 oz gloves will help Mayweather too. One of the greatest of all time gets to go with lighter gloves? You bet I'm picking him.

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3 minutes ago, Woodie said:

Nobody's arguing that Floyd won't outbox McGregor or win easily on points, but to say that Conor has no chance and act as if Floyd doesn't have to do anything more than just show up is silly.  I can tell you don't really know anything about McGregor, and likely MMA in general, but there is far more skill involved than you are assuming...especially for dominating fighters like McGregor.  

Dont assume...i know about this stuff. If this were an octogon then i would easily give this victory to Connor. I'll  give him a punchers chance...a 1% chance of landing a lucky punch. Ill assume you know very little abojt boxing except what youve YouTube'd. Fugging millennials. 

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5 minutes ago, Promethean Forerunner said:

Connor punching power > Mayweather punching power

That's not even up for debate. This favors Mayweather as well but not as much as it favors McGregor.  Furthermore, you guys seem to really be underestimating how powerful and explosive Connor is overall as a fighter and athlete. Every great fighter eventually gets trapped into a corner and on the ropes.

Like I referenced before, if Floyd didn't have any reservations about that type of fight, he would have accepted a fight with Margarito. He didn't. Bad, bad match up.

Honestly this all comes down to the fact in the public eye, if he beats Mcgregor. He will become the GOAT surpassing Ali. Which I don't think anyone ever thought was possible. Again in the public eye. 

 Said it best. 

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30 minutes ago, Jimmy said:

Dont assume...i know about this stuff. If this were an octogon then i would easily give this victory to Connor. I'll  give him a punchers chance...a 1% chance of landing a lucky punch. Ill assume you know very little abojt boxing except what youve YouTube'd. Fugging millennials. 

Your funny, you make some pretty bad assumptions.  I can guarantee that I've probably been watching boxing far longer than you have, but that's not really the point, is it?  It's the fact that you don't really know much about McGregor, and this seems to be that old boxing vs. MMA argument.

The funny thing is that I'm not even arguing Floyd's ability to easily win this fight with boxing, I just recognize that there is an early risk that he has to be careful of because McGregor is no slouch and is very unconventional, and will not approach this fight like any of Floyd's previous opponents.  But I have also seen both fighters fight on multiple occasions, and I know that McGregor has far more skill than you realize. 

If I had to predict, I would say that Floyd plays it safe early, then starts to get aggressive once he senses McGregor slowing down.  IMO, that will probably be somewhere around the 3rd or 4th round.   

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I bought the fight.  Will have all our friends over, everyone will bring alittle cash to throw in, some food and we will get drunk and have a great time and watch it.

People claiming its a waste of money just dont see a good opportunity when it presents itself.  Ill come out of this full, paid back and alittle loose so i can go 12 rounds with the lady.  ( + or - 12 rounds depending on the alcohol )

 

 

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