Will he remain...

[Jimmy]

Just now, Promethean Forerunner said:

8 ounce gloves + punching power + age

There are variables to account for.

Biggest variable - Mcgregor is basically an amateur boxer facing a multiple professional world champion who is 49-0...Mcgregor is getting schooled tonight

 

[*FreeFua*]

Rather watch Padres/Marlins tonight 

[t96]

3 minutes ago, Promethean Forerunner said:

BUT who says McGregor will try to box him?

The sport is boxing. What's he going to do kick him and get DQ'd? A lot of professional boxers who are of the modern brawler type have tried to KO Mayweather and never stood a chance. Alvarez is 10x the fighter McGregor could ever hope to become with actual boxing training and professional experience over several years, and he got smoked by Mayweather. 

True great fighters of the past like Jake LaMotta or Sugar Ray Robinson, etc. could KO Mayweather. McGregor is not even 1% of what those guys are. He could maybe get to the point where he wouldn't look lost out there if he switched to boxing, trained for it and had several professional fights over a few years, but even that's questionable. McGregor is going in as an amateur boxer and it's completely stupid. Both football and basketball are ball oriented sports, that doesn't mean Cam or any other elite football player could even score a point on even a player on the backend of a NBA roster, let alone the best in the sport like a Kawhi Leonard or LeBron James--which is what Mayweather is. 

Why anyone would waste their money on this or have any interest in it is beyond me. I could understand a charity type display with headgear, etc. even though that would still be stupid, but this is just beyond belief.

[Jimmy]

9 minutes ago, Promethean Forerunner said:

As I stated above, Connor may not be trying to box him at all. 

In a boxing match...bad idea. Horrible idea. 

[The Lobo]

40 minutes ago, Promethean Forerunner said:

Everybody is doubting McGregor and stating he'll get knocked out easily. I don't know... the mere fact that 95% of the planet is picking Floyd and uttering he doesn't stand a chance. I sense an epic upset coming.

Also remember, Mayweather is 50, hasn't fought since 2015, and 8 ounce gloves play a factor.

Mayweather is 40 and at their weight, 8-10 oz gloves are used for fights. More often than not, boxers at this weight will use 10. You are right, 8 oz will play a factor but it will be for Mayweather. He already has great hand speed and is a high % puncher. Lighter gloves have a high peak force on impact. Factor that in with his pot shots he takes, it should be a no brainer. It is boxing though, so it just takes one shot from Connor to rock him. That being said, he's fought way better boxers than Connor before (Gatti, Paq man, Cotto to name a few) and won. 

He is the best defensive fighter of all time with 26 KOs, 15 titles with 4 of those coming from 4 different weight classes and has tied Rocky Marcianos all time win record. There is a reason he is heavily favored and it is why I think he will win. (sorry for the rant I'm a huge boxing fan and I don't get to talk about it much with ppl, there aren't as many of us anymore)

[t96]

1 minute ago, Promethean Forerunner said:

It's not about just resorting to kicking or elbowing or grappling. There are other ways to win than to just box. McGregor is a brawler at heart. There are unconventional ways to attempt to win a fight. Look at the Fedor-Crocop fight. Most assumed if Mirko kept the fight standing, he'd kill Fedor with his lethal, world class striking that earned him a feared reputation. In that bout, Fedor actually found a way to outstrike the best kickboxer in the world by not letting him set up his kicks and punches. He pressured him until folded.

McGregor weighed in at 154 and will likely balloon up to 165-175 lbs by tonight. That's a massive advantage. In addition, Connor is far stronger. You honestly think it won't play a factor? There's a reason why Mayweather avoided match ups like Margarito.

Sure, size is a factor. If McGregor wasn't an amateur it might make a difference. But he is. And this isn't kickboxing. Cam is 6'5"+ but 5'9" Isaiah Thomas would destroy him 1 on 1 in basketball. When there's this much of a skill difference in the sport, that size and strength advantage will ultimately have negligible impact. I think you underestimate the intricacies and skills required in the sport of boxing that take years and years to master. McGregor has none of those skills developed at all. You can't just walk into any sport or any type of skill and be good at it. It takes 10,000 hours plus of practicing and learning all the intricacies and understanding the depth of what's required and done in the sport, or instrument or whatever skill you want to talk about. McGregor might wind up with about 1,000 hours of boxing experience, compared to Mayweather's 10's of thousands at this point. And Mayweather has elite speed and footwork ability. McGregor has neither. Mayweather's footwork alone could win him this match easily, even ignoring his mastery of punching, counterpunching, feints, dodging, blocking, parrying, etc. The list goes on. It's a completely stupid and pointless match, that's only being done by the two of them because of the insane money involved that retards are going to pay to watch it.

[Moorgan]

18 minutes ago, thomas96 said:

Why anyone would waste their money on this or have any interest in it is beyond me. I could understand a charity type display with headgear, etc. even though that would still be stupid, but this is just beyond belief.

I've been watching boxing since the 80s and MMA for almost 25 years. Now there's a crossover fight between two champions/legends and you can't figure out why I'm interested.

I literally buy every UFC ppv and have HBO and Showtime for boxing. This is an obvious buy for my entertainment dollar.

[t96]

Just now, Moorgan said:

I've been watching boxing since the 80s and MMA for almost 25 years. Now there's a crossover fight between two champions/legends and you can't figure out why I'm interested.

I literally buy every UFC ppv and have HBO and Showtime for boxing. This is an obvious buy for my entertainment dollar.

I mean, if you're entertained enough by the best current boxer going up against an amateur and want to spend your money on it then that's your right and I really don't care. I just find it to be ridiculously stupid to pay money for a mismatch like that. I'm a huge boxing fan and have been my entire life. I've watched hundreds of fights live and even more of classic greats on tape (literal 35mm reels from back in the day, not youtube nowadays) such as Sugar Ray Robinson, as well as classic fights live. I'm disappointed in the direction boxing has gone, with PPV and just the downright decline of the talent in the ring. I don't care for MMA personally but as a boxing fan I just find this to be a mockery of the sport. Anybody who's a true boxing fan, and not just a "watch the fights for KOs and big punches" fan will find this to be ridiculous, whether they like MMA or not. The sports don't crossover, and they shouldn't.

[Harbingers]

29 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

Rather watch Padres/Marlins tonight 

Again, Why nobody cared what you think. Come join Cam and I at the stripclub tonight. 

[t96]

1 minute ago, Promethean Forerunner said:

 

I'll say this, if McGregor attempts to outbox Mayweather like all of us are assuming he'll attempt, then this will be the easiest win of Floyd's career. However, keep this in the back of your minds, this is a circus fight. Let's not kid ourselves here. What's stopping Connor from getting ahold of Mayweather and forcing him into a corner or onto the ropes and smother him? Connor is a master of mind games and his grappling isn't half bad. This is the one area where he can succeed by a large margin. Mayweather will not be able to overpower Connor. He's too imposing. That means Floyd will have to escape McGregor's grasp for 2-3 rounds. After that, Connor will start to peak with his endurance and his punching power will begin to fade. If he gets caught in a corner, all bets are off. 8 ounces is indeed a huge deal for a bulky and brawler like Connor.

Let's not treat this like a legitimate boxing bout because it certainly won't be.

If by getting ahold of him you mean literally grabbing and tackling him, that sh*t won't be allowed, it's boxing regulations not MMA If you mean just trying to corner him in the corner and wail on him then you're stupid if you think he has a chance of doing that. Boxing footwork is a finesse and mastery alone and Mayweather is the best right now and can easily make McGregor go anywhere inside the ring that he wants with his mastery of the footwork alone. This isn't simplistic movement in the ring, it's a legitimate chess match of the feet, but with even more possible moves than in chess. Floyd can easily make McGregor his puppet in the ring, and will have him dangling by strings before it's over.

[Moorgan]

1 minute ago, thomas96 said:

I mean, if you're entertained enough by the best current boxer going up against an amateur and want to spend your money on it then that's your right and I really don't care. I just find it to be ridiculously stupid to pay money for a mismatch like that. I'm a huge boxing fan and have been my entire life. I've watched hundreds of fights live and even more of classic greats on tape (literal 35mm reels from back in the day, not youtube nowadays) such as Sugar Ray Robinson, as well as classic fights live. I'm disappointed in the direction boxing has gone, with PPV and just the downright decline of the talent in the ring. I don't care for MMA personally but as a boxing fan I just find this to be a mockery of the sport. Anybody who's a true boxing fan, and not just a "watch the fights for KOs and big punches" fan will find this to be ridiculous, whether they like MMA or not. The sports don't crossover, and they shouldn't.

I've watched several Robinson fights, and Marciano and many others before my time. Mayweather might be the greatest defensive boxer I've ever seen. But there are several factors in this fight. Floyd hasn't fought in 2 years. He's 40. He's significantly smaller. And 8 oz gloves.

I don't think Conor will win but he has a chance. Like I said before though, I'll be happy if he doesn't get made a fool of. I have enough confidence in Conor that he won't get clowned.

[t96]

1 minute ago, Moorgan said:

I've watched several Robinson fights, and Marciano and many others before my time. Mayweather might be the greatest defensive boxer I've ever seen. But there are several factors in this fight. Floyd hasn't fought in 2 years. He's 40. He's significantly smaller. And 8 oz gloves.

I don't think Conor will win but he has a chance. Like I said before though, I'll be happy if he doesn't get made a fool of. I have enough confidence in Conor that he won't get clowned.

Mayweather has gone a year without fighting before, the time in between has zero impact at all. Being 40 also has essentially no impact. His speed and quickness is still there and he's fought just 49 times, which is nothing. It's not like he's worn down by this point or anything like that. 8oz. gloves benefits Mayweather just as much as it does McGregor. 

He really just doesn't have any chance. I'd love to be wrong as I despise Mayweather but McGregor will absolutely get completely clowned. No it probably won't be a 1st round 30 second in KO like Tyson did to the chumps he fought early on, but he will get completely clowned, no doubt about it.

[OneBadCat]

Mayweather has the clear skill and experience to win this in a landslide. But he is 40 that does count for something.  I would like Connor to be aggressive and lay some punishment but I just don't think he has the hand skills. 

Mayweather isn't a warrior like Connor though. He's a smart point boxer that's afraid of getting hit. Only way McGregor has a chance is to get in his head and make him fight  in a way that is out of his control and comfort zone.

[The Lobo]

3 minutes ago, Promethean Forerunner said:

 

I'll say this, if McGregor attempts to outbox Mayweather like all of us are assuming he'll attempt, then this will be the easiest win of Floyd's career. However, keep this in the back of your minds, this is a circus fight. Let's not kid ourselves here. What's stopping Connor from getting ahold of Mayweather and forcing him into a corner or onto the ropes and smother him? Connor is a master of mind games and his grappling isn't half bad. This is the one area where he can succeed by a large margin. Mayweather will not be able to overpower Connor. He's too imposing. That means Floyd will have to escape McGregor's grasp for 2-3 rounds. After that, Connor will start to peak with his endurance and his punching power will begin to fade. If he gets caught in a corner, all bets are off. 8 ounces is indeed a huge deal for a bully and brawler like Connor.

Let's not treat this like a legitimate boxing bout because it certainly won't be.

But it is a legitimate boxing match. This isn't MMA where he is going to charge at him and try to knee, elbow and all that. If he comes out guns blazing he will not last long. Like I said, Floyd has fought way better boxers than Connor, you don't think he hasn't faced someone who just tries to mind sex him and swing for the fences. He is he best defensive fight ever. He is so smart in the ring it's hard to stop. I'm not saying Connor is a bum I really like Connor, but this is a whole other level and sport here. It's called the sweet science for a reason. If Connor does some weird crap, Floyd will counts. Let's look at a great example:

a couple months ago a 48 year old Roy Jones Jr (my favorite of all time) fought an undefeated boxer who was some bare knuckle phenom or some crap named Bobby Gunn (43 yrs old). Many thought Gunn would destroy Jones because Jones hadn't boxed in a while and is pushing 50. Plus Gunn is a bad ass and can take a punch and had a nasty cross. Needless to say, Roy dominated the fight and it was TKO in the 8 but gunns corner didn't want to send him back out a couple rounds earlier. He went out anyway and got demolished.

Now, these scenarios are different in the sense that I'm sure Connor is a better athlete and fighter than Gunn, but one thing remains the same...the pure boxer, who has been doing this their whole life,who has mastered the sweet science, will win. 

If connor wins, great, good for him and I will pie you for sure. I just don't think he will. In this situation, he is a jack of all trades master of none and he is fighting a MASTER of one. That "one" just happens to be the one thing they are fighting each other in.