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[Snake]

Honestly PFF grades are to be taken with a grain of salt. It's still fun to look at them though. 

[top dawg]

7 minutes ago, Snake said:

Honestly PFF grades are to be taken with a grain of salt. It's still fun to look at them though. 

I agree, but I will say they are a very good guide. Context plays a very important role, like who a player is facing, team-wise and individually, the number of snaps involved, etc.

[Nick_81]

I think people overlook the fact, because it's the Jaguars, that they have a pretty damn stout defense.  The fact that, when Cam was in, we moved the ball with relative ease, is about all I need to see.  PFF didn't tell the story I saw with my eyes.

[Cary Kollins]

All we need Kalil to be is serviceable. He doesn't have to be fuggin Tyron Smith. Just don't be Byron Bell and we've got a shot.

[shaqattaq]

5 hours ago, top dawg said:

The top five were:

LB Luke Kuechly, 87.8 overall grade

DI Kawann Short, 86.3 overall grade

CB Zack Sanchez, 85.9 overall grade

CB Jeff Richards, 83.0 overall grade

LB David Mayo, 79.4 overall grade

So, according to PFF, Zack Sanchez is the 3rd best player on the team! Zack frikkin Sanchez!

just take a minute to let that sink in before quoting PFF grades like they're the bible.

Edit: not calling you out top dawg, just a general statement about how little PFF matters in my life.

[ncsportsfan1234]

PFF uses personal opinion in their ratings.... its a worthless rag that only simps use as validation.

 

The starting offensive line hasn't surrendered a sack this pre season... and 0 sacks surrendered last night.

[WOW!!]

fug PFf.. they don't know poo .. stop wasting your time..

Everytime somebody brings these con men up i will say this..

[CatMan72]

5 hours ago, top dawg said:

Those were Robinson's only two pressures on the night. That's pretty good. 

I don't know for sure (about his vs. Kalil's grade), but it's probably because Robinson played markedly more snaps.

If you give up more pressures on a smaller sample size, but very little on a larger sample size, then we all know which one is going to be graded higher.

Grading pre-season games is a little funny because (in this example) Robinson and Kalil may have taken a totally different number of snaps against first-string caliber opposition. In other words, Robinson may have had more snaps against lesser talent and therefore a better overall grade. 

[Millioso7]

What makes you think mayo can't start here in charlotte one day? Mayo kuechly Thompson ahhh I can see it now

[JawnyBlaze]

PFF gonna PFF.  If there's something I can take their opinions with that's more worthless than a grain of salt, I'll take half of one of those.

[Saca312]

5 hours ago, top dawg said:

I agree, but I will say they are a very good guide. Context plays a very important role, like who a player is facing, team-wise and individually, the number of snaps involved, etc.

In terms of how they do offensive line grades, they leave out a lot of context. It's great for other positions, but generally o-line is very questionable since they don't really pay much heed to the role the specific tackle was playing (i.e. taking off points for something that looked "wrong" when the playcall directed him to do exactly that."

From plenty of accounts from guys who analyze o-line players, seems Matt Kalil is performing really well. 

 

[yasuhara2241]

My opinion of grades of offensive line is the following: its a nice feel good moment but ultimately I don't care much. 

Let's say there are 35 passes in a game. The offense was moving the ball consistently and scoring but on two plays the player gave up 2 sacks. He blocked well on 33 plays but got beat twice. His grades suck because he got beat twice but overall the offense was successful bc the other 33 times he was successful. 

Last nights game Kalil got beat a couple of times but we had quick passes called so no sacks were given up. The other plays he held his own. That is a success in my eyes no matter the grades

[mikeholiday]

11 minutes ago, yasuhara2241 said:

My opinion of grades of offensive line is the following: its a nice feel good moment but ultimately I don't care much. 

Let's say there are 35 passes in a game. The offense was moving the ball consistently and scoring but on two plays the player gave up 2 sacks. He blocked well on 33 plays but got beat twice. His grades suck because he got beat twice but overall the offense was successful bc the other 33 times he was successful. 

Last nights game Kalil got beat a couple of times but we had quick passes called so no sacks were given up. The other plays he held his own. That is a success in my eyes no matter the grades

You know nothing about football.

[mikeholiday]

1 hour ago, ncsportsfan1234 said:

PFF uses personal opinion in their ratings.... its a worthless rag that only simps use as validation.

 

The starting offensive line hasn't surrendered a sack this pre season... and 0 sacks surrendered last night.

You know nothing about football.