Thomas Davis signs contract extension

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8 minutes ago, thebigcat said:

Team just paid $6.75 million for a professional cheerleader next year... Patriots have David Harris for two years $5 million. It's why they have to build shelves for all their Lombardi trophies and we are run like a mom and pop franchise. There's no moral victory in sports, we likely lost the opportunity to retain Norwell and Star simultaneously over this, so we'll keep one of them and a 100 year old linebacker sucking $7 million, but wait, he's a great team player

Dominique Easley, Chad Ochocinco, Albert Haynesworth, Chad Jackson, and many others, prove they're slightly less than the deity you imply.  They made the greatest 6th round pick of all time who happens to be married to a RICH supermodel that makes more than he does (and helps their cap), and have dominated a weak ass division.  Yes, they're 5-2 in close Super Bowls, but I bet we beat the 40 year old statue's block off if we meet in February.

[Hogmolliesmaht]

4 minutes ago, thebigcat said:

You honestly think they'll release him.... We're paying a linebacker on his last legs $6.75 next year to watch Norwell walk

I really have no idea if they will release him or not, but this contract does not keep Norwell from being extended.

[panthers55]

10 minutes ago, thebigcat said:

I'm a Carolina Panthers fan, not a Thomas Davis fan club chapter President... The team got hosed plain and simple so sue Ellen Terry Bobby from Gastonia can have the warm and fuzzies about Mr. Richardson

You are wrong on so.many levels in your posts in this thread.. First of all Davis has not dropped off at all. He played every snap for the defense for the last 11 games in 2016. If he has lost a step it hasn't been obvious. And the issue isn't about Shaq but whether Kuechly can play without injury this year. 

The extension was for 1 year and it is for a reasonable amount. He was already counting 8.2 million this year so next year's extension won't be for more and only 1 million of next year is guaranteed so we could cut him after this year if he drops off with little consequence.

[panthers55]

1 minute ago, Hogmolliesmaht said:

I really have no idea if they will release him or not, but this contract does not keep Norwell from being extended.

We can sign Norwell and Star with little problem. Year 1 and year 2 on most contracts are cap friendly so really the cost would be reasonable. It won't be until year 3 before we would have issues and as long as the guaranteed money is reasonable we will be fine.

[Saca312]

5 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

You are wrong on so.many levels in your posts in this thread.. First of all Davis has not dropped off at all.

Sorry to break it to you, but he did drop off. Slightly, but he definitely dropped off. Shaq Thompson's far better at this point.

[panthers55]

8 minutes ago, thebigcat said:

Thomas Davis whiffed big-time last year, take your black and blue glasses and rewatch a few games. QBs picked on him big time in passing situations. Look at the James Harrison and David Harris deals, both are franchises with Lombardi trophies, we overpaid

You have no idea what you are talking about. I watch all the games and actually know what I am looking at. The problem was that with such poor nickel and corner play, the linebackers had to play zone and keep everything in front of them concerning the underneath. With no Kuechly to help and Klein in the middle. Davis was actually one of our best past defenders. Any drop off can be attributed to fatigue playing every snap of every game from game 6 on.

[Basbear]

TD said a few times they were in contract discussions with dave, how they were going though... did everyone forget? 

[Hogmolliesmaht]

3 minutes ago, Saca312 said:

Sorry to break it to you, but he did drop off. Slightly, but he definitely dropped off. Shaq Thompson's far better at this point.

I'm not sure how you can say that about Thompson right now. IMO, he still has a lot to prove before anybody can legitimately compare him to TD. But again, I don't see this contract as any kind of a set back for signing Norewll and/or Star. Maybe it will not happen until next off season but that doesn't really matter.

[Basbear]

Bigcat, Im not so sure on the overpay part. I know it all adds up, but this seems 'ok'. 

[panthers55]

7 minutes ago, Saca312 said:

Sorry to break it to you, but he did drop off. Slightly, but he definitely dropped off. Shaq Thompson's far better at this point.

The defense dropped off when Kuechly went out and Davis had to cover more ground with Klein in the middle. Davis played every snap for the last 11 games and with the defense unable to get off the field did suffer some from fatigue at times. What you mistakenly call drop off.

[panthers55]

3 minutes ago, Basbear said:

Bigcat, Im not so sure on the overpay part. I know it all adds up, but this seems 'ok'. 

BC doesn't have a clue. His cap hit is less than this year and only 1 million is guranteed in 2018. We can keep or cut him with little consequence. This was a win-win for both sides.

[E CaT PanTHer 2]

playing linebacker is more about being in the right spot at the right time, and davis is still one of the best in the game at putting himself in position to make a play. Sure he's lost a little bit of that speed and power, but he can still drastically affect a game just with his vision and knowledge alone. 

[panthers55]

13 minutes ago, thebigcat said:

Thomas Davis whiffed big-time last year, take your black and blue glasses and rewatch a few games. QBs picked on him big time in passing situations. Look at the James Harrison and David Harris deals, both are franchises with Lombardi trophies, we overpaid

Apples and oranges. Harrison is 39 not 34 like Davis and is a linebacker in name only. He compares well to Peppers who also signed a relatively modest contract and Peppers is a Hall of famer who is playing at a higher level than Harrison.  

[Basbear]

Just now, panthers55 said:

BC doesn't have a clue. His cap hit is less than this year and only 1 million is guranteed in 2018. We can keep or cut him with little consequence. This was a win-win for both sides.

BC just wants what you and I want, win baby. This overall effect is on the light end, now if TD gets hurt but that's the what if game. I know TD is part cyborg, but one day he's going to wake up to a huge dose of father-time. He did lose a step last year, but he's still overall faster than 85% other nfl LBs. Plus he still hits like a truck too.