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Jared Allen > Peppers

southcakalac

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firstdayfan Enthusiast

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That's about the last thing I'm concerned with in a defensive end.

I'm one of the biggest homers on this board, and even I think that Allen > Peppers, and it's not even close.

Allen had more sacks tonight then Peppers will have all season. Take it to the bank. He was going the heck off tonight, and showed the country exactly what an all-world defensive end looks, plays, and acts like. I hope Peppers was watching and thinking "Why am I making more money than this guy?"

But then again, that's just me.

DE's have to be able to do more than just rush a quarterback in a blowout. All they ask Allen to do is rush the QB and Peppers has shown that he can do a variety of different things over the years. He is more physically gifted than Jared, please just give me that.

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also...jarred allen played 95% of snaps..last year more than any DE..I dont think any one can argue who is the better DE rite now thats allen...but peppers is a good DE that can blow Allen out the water when he is on..

Lets all be real here

Pep on his best day >> Allen on his best day

Unfortunately, Pep best day is starting to become once per season

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DE's have to be able to do more than just rush a quarterback in a blowout. All they ask Allen to do is rush the QB and Peppers has shown that he can do a variety of different things over the years. He is more physically gifted than Jared, please just give me that.

I think this post in the other thread sums it up best...

The world's strongest man doesn't play in the NFL.

The world's fastest man doesn't play in the NFL.

Peppers is a freak, but the fact is, he's not a good football player. You start looking at those things as indicator's of a good football player and you're basically just being Al Davis.

There's a reason why JaMarcus Russel is the worst QB in the league right now. Why Peppers is the most overpaid person in any profession in human history.

Raw ability means nothing at the pro level. It's something to build on, but you can't survive on it alone.

Peppers is not a better football player than Jared Allen in any stretch of the imagination and that's what matters.

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DE's have to be able to do more than just rush a quarterback in a blowout. All they ask Allen to do is rush the QB and Peppers has shown that he can do a variety of different things over the years. He is more physically gifted than Jared, please just give me that.

yes he is...this is one of the reason why allen has to play 95% of snaps all last year..just to get like one more sack then peppers.like i said rite now Allen is better..but when pep is on he is 10x better than allen.

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lol someone is actually arguing this...

:lurk5:

Just because you watched Monday Night Football and saw a guy have a really good game doesn't mean he is a better player. Hell, do you think that Rashard Mendenhall is a better running back because he had more yards than Adrian Peterson?

Allen and Peppers are probably as good at their position than anyone out there right now. Nobody is arguing that Allen isn't good, I am arguing that through contract disputes and poor play that we have forgotten how good Peppers is and can be.

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Just because you watched Monday Night Football and saw a guy have a really good game doesn't mean he is a better player. Hell, do you think that Rashard Mendenhall is a better running back because he had more yards than Adrian Peterson?

Allen and Peppers are probably as good at their position than anyone out there right now. Nobody is arguing that Allen isn't good, I am arguing that through contract disputes and poor play that we have forgotten how good Peppers is and can be.

I've not seen Peppers be the player he "can be" according to all the hype in quite some time. Every single pre-game the announcers pan to a shot of Julius Peppers and talk about "One of the most dominant players in the NFL" and every game Julius proves them wrong.

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I also saw Allen get single blocked right out of a play, go on a stunt and just stand there while other players forced the QB to his side, over run a screen that led to a big play, and sack a QB that held the ball for over 6 seconds in the pocket (thats called a coverage sack because the QB had no one to go to). Its not as impressive as you are making it out to be.

Yes, Allen is a good player but this is like comparing Steve Smith and Larry Fitzgerald. One has more drive and determination (and tougher) and the other is more physically gifted and has a better supporting cast. If Smith played in that offense last year I can only imagine what he would have done. Its a ridiculous argument.

yes Peppers played good last year and in years past,but now he is making bank$$,more $$ than anybody and playing half assed!He has no heart and even looks like some escaped sex offender on the sideline!With the $$ he is making and the opportunity to showcase his talent for the next team he plays for,you would think he'd play lights out so that some other team would be willing to give him a good contract!just goes to show he is lazy and not the brightest lightbulb in the hallway!
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