Analysis: Could Taylor Moton Earn The Starting Right Tackle Gig As Soon As Week 1?

[nctarheel0619]

9 minutes ago, Hogmolliesmaht said:

And BTW, Andrew Norwell started 9 games as an UDFA. If an UDFA could start 9 games as a rookie, does anybody really believe they won't start their 3rd round draft pick?

Late Second Rounder also.  Just FYI.  

[Hogmolliesmaht]

2 minutes ago, nctarheel0619 said:

Ah, my how we forget the receivers they had to start above KB?  Oh none?  Good talk.  Also, Funchess did not start in 2015. LOLZ.  Trai Turner started, because they had no one else at RG.  Andrew Norwell started later on when Amini got hurt.  Amini doesn't get hurt, they don't start Norwell.  This coaching staff loves Vets.  Stop thinking Moton will start.  Rivera and his staff has left little benefit of the doubt anymore.  

Dude, you would argue with a stop sign. Taylor Moton is a 2nd round pick and he will start if he's good enough. I happen to believe he's more than good enough.

[nctarheel0619]

Just now, Hogmolliesmaht said:

Dude, you would argue with a stop sign. Taylor Moton is a 2nd round pick and he will start if he's good enough. I happen to believe he's more than good enough.

Haha.  He'll start if injuries happen.  Other than that, absolutely not.  And don't get agitated because I'm right.  

[Hogmolliesmaht]

3 minutes ago, KillerKat said:

Kinda a bad example since Norwell didn't start until injuries happened.

It doesn't matter. You guys say they never start rookies and it's simply not true at all. They will usually go with experience over a 5th round pick, but you can say that for pretty much every team in the league unless that 5th round pick is clearly head and shoulders better than the veteran.

[Hogmolliesmaht]

5 minutes ago, nctarheel0619 said:

Haha.  He'll start if injuries happen.  Other than that, absolutely not.  And don't get agitated because I'm right.  

OK then. Name all the high draft picks that RR has refused to start even though they were clearly better than the veteran. If they're equal, all coaches will go with the veteran experience.

[nctarheel0619]

7 minutes ago, Hogmolliesmaht said:

OK then. Name all the high draft picks that RR has refused to start even thought they were clearly better than the veteran.

Wow.  What a concept.  The majority of the higher picks aren't better than their Veteran counterparts.  lol.  What a reach.  I would say Funchess but, he wasn't better than Ted Ginn.

He did start Jon Beason over Luke at MLB.  And Luke played very meh at outside LB.  Until Beason got hurt, then Luke started there and never looked back.  That's honestly the only example I need.  Shows you his talent Eval is very meh.  

The rest of th Draft picks have either started out of necessity such as KB, Star, and Cam or still haven't started.  Or sucked complete ass when they did start (Amini).  

[Hogmolliesmaht]

4 minutes ago, nctarheel0619 said:

Wow.  What a concept.  The majority of the higher picks aren't better than their Veteran counterparts.  lol.  What a reach.  I would say Funchess but, he wasn't better than Ted Ginn.

He did start Jon Beason over Luke at MLB.  And Luke played very meh at outside LB.  Until Beason got hurt, then Luke started there and never looked back.  That's honestly the only example I need.  

See you've got nothing.  I'll make it even easier. Name all the draft picks beyond the 3rd round that RR refused to start and who   are starting today. The fact is, every coach in the league is going to go with experience over youth if everything else is equal or even if the young guy is only slightly better. This is not something particular to RR.

[nctarheel0619]

6 minutes ago, Hogmolliesmaht said:

See you've got nothing.  I'll make it even easier. Name all the draft picks beyond the 3rd round that RR refused to start and who  are starting today.

I've got nothing?  Are you retarded?  I just gave you the perfect example.  He took four years to start Norman consistently.  And the rest of the lower Draft picks never panned out.  Starting Short and Star were out of necessity (DT was a bad need).  Funchess is finally starting in his third year.  Shaq isn't starting.  Amini was trash when he started.  Vernon Butler also isn't starting.  But, I've got nothing?  Wow.

 

and I've got nothing?  Geez kid.  You ever think of admitting you're wrong for once?  Jesus Christ.  The Huddle sure has some dense people on here.  Actually I'm done with this.  I can't deal with people that think like fairies and have happy thoughts all the time and are completely oblivious to the obvious with this staff and team.  Good day.  

[Hogmolliesmaht]

15 minutes ago, nctarheel0619 said:

I've got nothing?  Are you retarded?  I just gave you the perfect example.  He took four years to start Norman consistently.  And the rest of the lower Draft picks never panned out.  Starting Short and Star were out of necessity (DT was a bad need).  Funchess is finally starting in his third year.  Shaq isn't starting.  Amini was trash when he started.  Vernon Butler also isn't starting.  But, I've got nothing?  Wow.  

Norman was a 5th round pick who didn't start because he wasn't listening to the coaches. Everybody knows that. Vernon Butler has the bad luck to be behind KK and had to deal with injuries, so that one is just common sense. Amini might have been trash, but RR DID start him, so that one is just asinine. Shaq is about the only one that is legit, but he still played a lot of snaps as a rookie and he isn't really a prototypical LBer anyway. TD was a tweener who didn't start as a rookie either.

 

Bottom line... Moton is a hell of a lot better than you seem to think he is and I have provided the evidence to back it up. If that doesn't satisfy you, then you should go to youtube and watch his college reps for yourself. Besides that, he was drafted higher than Williams, who is still a young player himself. There hasn't been a similar situation anybody can point to where RR didn't go with the better player. That's a fact.

[Mistuh Jones]

Moton is definitely the future. Let's let Williams get a little bit more time before we begin writing him off that wasn't too bad against JJ Watt. that being said, I do think that Moton definitely has the upside and I've been high on him since the draft

[csx]

Norman started 12 games his rookie season. As did Bell. 

 

 

[Hogmolliesmaht]

2 hours ago, csx said:

Norman started 12 games his rookie season. As did Bell. 

 

 

I feel like RR has started the rookies who deserved to start. He's not the greatest coach of all time or anything, but he gets a bad rap on this one, IMO.

And FTR, Moton reminds me of Jordan Gross as a rookie, in that he's already technically sound and consistent. Moton is definitely  a more powerful run blocker though and THAT'S why I think he should get a shot at starting RT.

[csx]

16 minutes ago, Hogmolliesmaht said:

I feel like RR has started the rookies who deserved to start. He's not the greatest coach of all time or anything, but he gets a bad rap on this one, IMO.

And FTR, Moton reminds me of Jordan Gross as a rookie, in that he's already technically sound and consistent. Moton is definitely  a more powerful run blocker though and THAT'S why I think he should get a shot at starting RT.

It's that thing where it happens once and gets repeated and then perception and not easily accessible  (if not memorable) facts don't exist.

[tiger7_88]

5 hours ago, sanjay_rajput said:

He ain't beating Williams unless injury happens.

 

I have actually seen DW play regular season games in the NFL and he was  pretty good , having another year down will only improve his game

 

You're talking about the same Daryl Williams who couldn't beat Mike Remmers for the starting RT job.

THAT Daryl Williams, right?