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LOL Remmers.

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4 minutes ago, SpclKen said:

Well, there is a big difference in what we paid for Mike Remmers and what we got vs what the Vikings are getting now. We got Remmers as a UDFA. We paid him 877,000 in 2015 and 2.5 million in 2016. This is backup RT money.

Vikings are paying him 7.5 million this year, and a 4 year 35 million contract.

Remmers shouldn't have been a starting RT for us, but at the very least he wasn't being paid as a starting RT for us. Vikings are NOT getting what they paid for... Carolina did get what they paid for. Unfortunate how he played in the SB... but I don't have any hard feelings.
 

This.  The loss was more on Shula and Ron than Remmers. 

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1 hour ago, TheRed said:

Are we laughing at the Vikings, or ourselves? The guy was a starter here two years.

Yes, he shouldn't have been starting. But also look at what we were paying him here vs. what they paid him...

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16 minutes ago, SpclKen said:

Well, there is a big difference in what we paid for Mike Remmers and what we got vs what the Vikings are getting now. We got Remmers as a UDFA. We paid him 877,000 in 2015 and 2.5 million in 2016. This is backup RT money.

Vikings are paying him 7.5 million this year, and a 4 year 35 million contract.

Remmers shouldn't have been a starting RT for us, but at the very least he wasn't being paid as a starting RT for us. Vikings are NOT getting what they paid for... Carolina did get what they paid for. Unfortunate how he played in the SB... but I don't have any hard feelings.
 

Damn posted the above without even coming to the 2nd page and seeing this. You beat me to it and this is spot on. Remmers was great for us for what we paid him. The issue was not having a quality starter ahead of him on the depth chart.

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Just now, TheRed said:

That sure makes me feel better about losing our second Super Bowl.

That was a total failure by the entire offense, not just Remmers. Only player on offense that showed up to play that game was Philly fuging Brown. Cam sucked, Ginn sucked, Funch sucked, Olsen was fine but not dominant like he should be, entire OL sucked not just Remmers, and all backs not named Stew were trash after Stew got hurt. Trying to put the SB loss on one player or acting like that loss wiped out the 17 wins before that and blame DG or Ron or JR or whoever is completely fuging outrageous. 

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16 minutes ago, thomas96 said:

That was a total failure by the entire offense, not just Remmers. Only player on offense that showed up to play that game was Philly fuging Brown. Cam sucked, Ginn sucked, Funch sucked, Olsen was fine but not dominant like he should be, entire OL sucked not just Remmers, and all backs not named Stew were trash after Stew got hurt. Trying to put the SB loss on one player or acting like that loss wiped out the 17 wins before that and blame DG or Ron or JR or whoever is completely fuging outrageous. 

We taped together that OL with failed cast offs and udfa's. The threat of Newton is the glue that held the offense together, and at times elevated subpar players around him.

I had this debate in the Ealy thread, not gonna rehash it again here. If you want to put your fingers in your ears and rationalize mediocrity and ineptitude that's your business, but it isn't going to win us championships. Sorry. Welcome to reality.

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43 minutes ago, SpclKen said:

Well, there is a big difference in what we paid for Mike Remmers and what we got vs what the Vikings are getting now. We got Remmers as a UDFA. We paid him 877,000 in 2015 and 2.5 million in 2016. This is backup RT money.

Vikings are paying him 7.5 million this year, and a 4 year 35 million contract.

Remmers shouldn't have been a starting RT for us, but at the very least he wasn't being paid as a starting RT for us. Vikings are NOT getting what they paid for... Carolina did get what they paid for. Unfortunate how he played in the SB... but I don't have any hard feelings.
 

Just adding to this informative post. They also paid him for around half the 2014 season(minimum). He was inserted along with Norwell and the whole OL improved greatly. Plus that 2.5 in 2016 was while playing mostly at LT.  Many bags on Remmers, but he was a savior during the cap hell years.  Honestly, if Williams and Remmers are equal salaries, id take Remmers. I hope Moton can step in the starting RT soon. 

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6 minutes ago, TheRed said:

We taped together that OL with failed cast offs and udfa's. The threat of Newton is the glue that held the offense together, and at times elevated subpar players around him.

I had this debate in the Ealy thread, not gonna rehash it again here. If you want to put your fingers in your ears and rationalize mediocrity and ineptitude that's your business, but it isn't going to win us championships. Sorry. Welcome to reality.

That same "mediocrity and ineptitude" that won 17 games in that season and absolutely dismantled two elite teams in the NFC leading up to the Super Bowl? It was one game that we flunked and failed, you can't look at only that and make a conclusion about the team. It sucks like hell that it was the game that mattered most, rendering the previous games meaningless, but that says more about the coaching not preparing the team for the big stage, than it does the GM for putting the team together. You have to look at all 19 games that the team played in, you can't just look at 1 and declare the roster was put together by  "mediocrity and ineptitude." What a dumb fuging argument by you dude.

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2 hours ago, TheRed said:

We taped together that OL with failed cast offs and udfa's. The threat of Newton is the glue that held the offense together, and at times elevated subpar players around him.

I had this debate in the Ealy thread, not gonna rehash it again here. If you want to put your fingers in your ears and rationalize mediocrity and ineptitude that's your business, but it isn't going to win us championships. Sorry. Welcome to reality.

Cam did not win all those games by himself just like Remmers wasn't the reason they lost the SB.  It was a team effort and no matter how much you want to live in denial those are the facts.

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