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Salary Cap Implications and our Roster.

Leeroy Jenkins PhD

By Leeroy Jenkins PhD,
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6 hours ago, Leeroy Jenkins PhD said:

Next year, the Panthers are going to be in a very difficult spot Cap-wise.  They already have allocated 166 million towards the cap and will have approximately 11.5 million in cap space. This will be somewhat alleviated by the 15 million they are set to rollover.

Haven't looked at the Cap numbers for a few weeks.

Surprised we could have 15 million to roll over.

Does the 11.5 million available include the projected cap increase next year?

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3 hours ago, Cyberjag said:

Any idea how much the cap is going up next year?

The cap for the next year wont be set until after this season, typically in March.  But the cap went up like 13MM this year and has increase over 10MM each of the past 5 years.  So I'd guess, it will increase by another 13.5-14.5MM, from 167MM this year to 180MMish for the following season.

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  I've already looked at next year, even before Dave was fired. The best name that needs attention is -Ryan Kalil. He was around 10 million is the last year, unless he takes a light contract, it will be a short stay with little bro. Larsen seems to be the future, his current salary is around 500,000.

 Honestly today they are about 5 million above the cap. NORMALLY the cap is going increase some, guessing 5-12 million. If they don't spend much more money, 15 million will be able to roll over next year. Taking all of that in Panthers could easily have 20-30 million in cap space for 2018. Finally, cams contract could be adjusted as well for additional space. Hopefully, herniay doesn't inform the agents.............

 

 

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I'm on the fence with Gano. While most on here would like to crucify him, I remember how automatic he was before the foot injury. If Butker kicks arse I'd feel better letting him go.

Dickson can kick rocks two years ago.

Those are the only players I wouldn't be terribly upset cutting ties with.


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Don't forget that the cap is projected to increase next year again...

Norwell shouldn't cost a ton.  Star will be the wildcard.  If Butler outperforms him this season, Star might be gone.  I'd love to have three very good DTs, but there aren't many teams that do.  

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1 hour ago, stbugs said:

No. I'd bet as posted above that we'll have around $35M in cap space. Honestly, that should be more than enough to get Norwell, Star and TD in place. Somewhere around $20M for all 3 should be more than enough.

Honestly, I think one guy no one is thinking about for 2018 as a cap casualty or retiree is Kalil. We would save $7.5M in 2018 and with the way Larsen appears to be playing in preseason/last year, you could keep Norwell instead and go cheap on Larsen. Get younger/healthier on the OL for same $$$. Without Kalil and even with the other 3 we'd probably have $20M left in cap space.

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You got a good grasp, I'll just add a few. You're a little high in your number, need to pay 2018 draft pool(who knows 5-15 million, depending on the number of picks, where they are and how close to #1 overall etc etc). During the season you sign players, it happens every year, they cost salary cap space. (signing bonuses, IR pushes the 51 up, etc). Then you have performance bonuses for players, like Turner, Norwell, worly, mayo cash etc. That could be 200,000 per player or 50,000, it adds up. That system was put in place to reward guys drafted(or undrafted) in later rounds for playing time. 

Again you need to hold AT LEAST 5 million for the in-season emergency fund. Plus in this era you need to roll-over next year too, so about 12+/- million is nearly untouchable. Herniay could add to cams, lukes, olsen, or KBs contract to push the number down the years. Lastly, the cap high SHOULD increase, but it could decrease, it's possible. Member, the collective bargaining is coming, all it takes is FAKE paper to show NFL is losing money and the cap goes down. 

In the end no one knows how much cap space the Panthers will have.

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Just now, KB_fan said:

??? Ryan was extended in 2016.  Isn't he under contract through end of 2018?

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/carolina-panthers/ryan-kalil-1229/

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Yes. Im speaking in 2018 terms, meant to convey that. Kalil is very tricking, cause a few times he redid his contract to provide salary cap relief(also cause he gets cash now too, rather than the unknown future). In 2018 its the end of the deal, where the dead money is low and his base is high. Kalil and KB could be cut and Panthers gain 15ish million in space or you could offer Kalil a new deal. A popular one- is convert the base salary to signing bonus and spread it over the new years. Ex- 2018 Kalil signs new 3 years 25 million of which 10 million(his 2018 salary) is guaranteed.  Depending on the wording it could drop his cap number form 10+million to around 4 million for 2018. OR move on with Larsen at a much cheaper rate.

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10 hours ago, sanjay_rajput said:

I would cut Lee  as well couple of extra million will help extend Norwell & Star. 

Are you still going on about this stupid idea?  Just let it go.  You are wrong in everything you say about this subject.  EVERYTHING!!!! Just let it go. 

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