this is a thread where i compile news articles to normalize the idea that other teams besides the panthers also have conflicts between players and front office executives

[uncfan888]

52 minutes ago, TheRed said:

So your logic is, if I don't think recently fired Dave Gettleman is lightyears better than every current general manager in the NFL, then I basically think he is the worst GM ever?

Are you insane?

I replied to what you said. I said there aren't 32 GMs better than him and you said that that was me being a Homer and not reality. I didn't say anything about you saying he is the worst ever.. You did say he's the worst now though 

[uncfan888]

I don't understand why red has joined Carl Spackler as the de facto leaders of the bash Gettleman brigade. I didnt even come in here to argue about him.. Only to say he's good enough for another job and we should move on. But you want to make a big fugin deal out of that too. 

[frash.exe]

14 minutes ago, nctarheel0619 said:

ass shitting

please stop contaminating the purity of this great christian forum with the devil's dialect.

[TheRumGone]

some serious meltdowns itt

[TheRed]

Just now, TheRumGone said:

some serious meltdowns itt

Where were you when long time posters were trashing TD and Olsen?

Even OP participated.

Now that's a meltdown.

[tiger7_88]

21 minutes ago, TheRed said:

My kid loved Steve Burns.

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After nearly six years and nearly 100 episodes, Burns departed Blue's Clues in 2002.

According to Johnson, Burns never wanted to become a "children's host." He loved kids, but stated "he could not make a life-long career out of it." Burns went on by saying "I knew I wasn't going to be doing children's television all my life, mostly because I refused to lose my hair on a kid's TV show, and it was happening, fast." The day following the filming of his final episode for the show, he shaved his head. This was something he wanted to do for many years, but the show's producers would not allow it. On the FAQ section of his webpage, when asked why he shaved his head, and if he had been trying to make a statement, Burns replied, "Yes, the statement is, 'We have male pattern baldness.'"

 

I feel ya, Steve... 

[frash.exe]

wow surprised nobody posted this content here yet

http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/244107030/kansas-city-chiefs-carolina-panthers-fire-gm

Both moves are proof of surprising dysfunction within both organizations and set very dangerous precedents for any men that are picked to lead those organizations moving forward. For the time being, that is the newly-hired Brett Veach in KC and Marty Hurney in Carolina, the latter having the role on an "interim" basis for the 2017 season.

Let's start with the dysfunction. This is not up for debate. Any time you fire your general manager in the summer, especially after each exec made significant moves in the offseason to prepare the roster for 2017 and beyond, there is something amiss.

...

History shows that giving extensions to older players with years left on their contract rarely works out well for the organization. Ditto for hanging on to a longtime star like Smith or Williams for an extra year or two for sentimental reasons, even though you no longer believe they are worth the money they are due.

Apparently, Richardson either doesn't know or care that Gettleman was being prudent with the future of the franchise. He just couldn't stomach having some of the franchise's all-time greats having a bad taste in their mouth regarding the organization.

That's a heck of a message for the next GM the Panthers end up hiring after Hurney: If you value your job, make sure the long-time Panthers are happy, even if you don't think it's in the best interest of building the football team.

[uncfan888]

18 minutes ago, TheRed said:

Where were you when long time posters were trashing TD and Olsen?

Even OP participated.

Now that's a meltdown.

While I do feel they were a part of it, I'd never blame them for what happened. They don't make the decisions

[TheRumGone]

20 minutes ago, TheRed said:

Where were you when long time posters were trashing TD and Olsen?

Even OP participated.

Now that's a meltdown.

No one is immune to being trashed on. They were looking at the entirety of the organization not just single players. 

[frash.exe]

if you don't know that it's not a big deal when a player skips OTAs, now you know

http://deadspin.com/lets-stop-pretending-to-care-when-nfl-players-skip-otas-1795510164

Every May, without fail, the NFL storylines are the same. (Take, for example, “the most May 22 tweet of all time.”) A particularly common one is the raft of headlines shouting “[PLAYER] Is Skipping OTAs,” followed by reams of copy that purport to explain why, and what it all means. It means nothing.

OTAs, or organized team activities, are a three-week phase of the NFL’s offseason program that occur in late May and early June. They come with specific restrictions: a total of 10 days of on-field practices that include position drills, 7-on-7s, 9-on-7s, and 11-on-11s, with no pads except helmets, and no live contact. Also—this is undoubtedly the most important part—OTAs are completely voluntary.

 

The guidelines that govern OTAs are spelled out in the league’s collective bargaining agreement with the players’ union. The players negotiated terms that included a designation that OTAs would be completely and utterly optional. Players don’t have to show up, and they don’t even have to give a reason for not showing up. Nothing is mandatory until next month’s three-day minicamp, when players can be fined a maximum of roughly $80,000 for an unexcused absence. And once training camps begin in mid-to-late July, an unauthorized no-show will cost a player $40,000 per day. 

Players can be incentivized into showing up for OTAs by individually bargaining with teams to include workout bonuses in their contracts—bonuses that pay out if a player participates in all or part of the offseason program. But that’s it. Players cannot be fined, suspended, or disciplined in any way for skipping OTAs. Which is exactly what they bargained for.

[TheRed]

16 minutes ago, TheRumGone said:

No one is immune to being trashed on.

I'm not saying anyone is above criticism. But there is a stark difference between valid criticism, and just being an asshat.

Remember the irrational trolls that used to go around calling Dave a fat ass, and "Gettledouche" among other things? Well the fans going around here calling TD and Olsen washed up greedy babies are no different than those trolls. There is no logic, there is no purpose for that, other than to lash out because they are mad. So why should the Gettleman homers that irrationally lash out at players because their guy got canned get treated differently than the Gettleman trolls?

When people like OP hop into a thread this season to congratulate TD or Olsen on a play, they are going to hear about their douchebaggery that was on full display for the last week plus.

[TheRed]

Fans of this board have always been anti-player when it suits them. Who here remembers the popular CBA lockout pie chart memes that Jerry Richardson created with his condescension towards Peyton Manning that Panthers fans floated around here for months? Yet they can't wait to wear jerseys, buy memorabilia, get autographs for the kids, yada yada. Sounds like the very definition of two-faced.

[TheRumGone]

36 minutes ago, TheRed said:

I'm not saying anyone is above criticism. But there is a stark difference between valid criticism, and just being an asshat.

Remember the irrational trolls that used to go around calling Dave a fat ass, and "Gettledouche" among other things? Well the fans going around here calling TD and Olsen washed up greedy babies are no different than those trolls. There is no logic, there is no purpose for that, other than to lash out because they are mad. So why should the Gettleman homers that irrationally lash out at players because their guy got canned get treated differently than the Gettleman trolls?

When people like OP hop into a thread this season to congratulate TD or Olsen on a play, they are going to hear about their douchebaggery that was on full display for the last week plus.

Only posts I remember frash dogging a player was smitty, and most of that was deserving. 

Not sure why you have a problem with this thread. He's showing what we just seemingly regressed to, from a cultural organizational standpoint.

 

[TheRed]

5 minutes ago, TheRumGone said:

Only posts I remember frash dogging a player was smitty, and most of that was deserving. 

Not sure why you have a problem with this thread. He's showing what we just regressed from, from a cultural organizational standpoint.

 

Well you've definitely missed some terrible posts then. Even Panthers vets that have been gone many years were getting roasted.

As far as the organizational discussion, it all begins and ends with our owner. Which is why the player bashing is so f*cking stupid. You've got owners now routinely holding cities ransom so they can get billion dollar stadiums built, and line their pockets, but it's those greedy players that are the problem? Um, no. Look around a bit.