unverified report: gettleman cut steve smith because in 2013 he punched cam newton in the face twice in the locker room after practice

[ClawOn]

Steve Smith is tough as nails. No doubt about that. His track record however is also that he throws punches when it's unlikely the other guy expects it. Smart in a bar fight,  kind of sh*tty with a teammate. 

[ClawOn]

1 minute ago, E CaT PanTHer 2 said:

don't quite agree. I have 6'4 friends who are the biggest puppy dogs you'll ever meet, and then 5'5 asian friends who'll throw down no matter what the circumstances and who they're up against, and 9 times out of 10, they'll come out victorious simply b/c they have no fear. 

I'm not saying Cam is a puss, but I'd honestly put my money on Steve if they ever got into a brawl.

It's not the dog in the fight, but the fight in the dog. 

The difference is that Steve was looking for fights. Cam isn't that guy. If somehow Steve triggered something in Cam that made him really want to,  it wouldn't go Steve's way. 

[E CaT PanTHer 2]

1 minute ago, ClawOn said:

The difference is that Steve was looking for fights. Cam isn't that guy. If somehow Steve triggered something in Cam that made him really want to,  it wouldn't go Steve's way. 

how are you so sure though? fighting is a mentality, and some guys just don't have it, no matter what their size. 

I've seen it first hand multiple times, in high school, at random bars, and just walking down the streets. 

[LinvilleGorge]

9 minutes ago, E CaT PanTHer 2 said:

don't quite agree. I have 6'4 friends who are the biggest puppy dogs you'll ever meet, and then 5'5 asian friends who'll throw down no matter what the circumstances and who they're up against, and 9 times out of 10, they'll come out victorious simply b/c they have no fear. 

I'm not saying Cam is a puss, but I'd honestly put my money on Steve if they ever got into a brawl.

It's not the dog in the fight, but the fight in the dog. 

You must have missed that time Cam bulldogged the poo out of Josh Norman when he chose to get all up in his face and mouthy. He ain't no punk.

[E CaT PanTHer 2]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

You must have missed that time Cam bulldogged the poo out of Josh Norman. He ain't no punk.

true. and he had a smile on his face doing it lol. 

again, I'm not saying Cam wouldn't stand a chance, it's just Smitty is one crazy ass mo fo and I think simply looking into his eyes and seeing the anger and rage would be intimidating for anyone, including cam. 

I've seen fights won through intimidation alone, even when the punches being thrown weren't causing much damage to the opponent. 

[C47]

50 minutes ago, CatMan72 said:

To play devil's advocate - why would Smitty keep quiet about this?

Because he's trying to get into the Hall starting in five years and if he gets in, it will be a razor thin margin. 

[Proudiddy]

18 minutes ago, E CaT PanTHer 2 said:

don't quite agree. I have 6'4 friends who are the biggest puppy dogs you'll ever meet, and then 5'5 asian friends who'll throw down no matter what the circumstances and who they're up against, and 9 times out of 10, they'll come out victorious simply b/c they have no fear. 

I'm not saying Cam is a puss, but I'd honestly put my money on Steve if they ever got into a brawl.

It's not the dog in the fight, but the fight in the dog. 

Does a softy blatantly celebrate, dance, and dab in the face of opponents he just athletically and physically bested?  Then, after doing so and being physically attacked for doing so, he turns around to face his assailant and resumes fearlessly dancing in their face again?  Lol.

Just one example, but Cam aint no punk.  Which is why i suspect it was more of a scuffle where Smitty knew there wouldn't be a one on one...  throw some meaningless punches to show the dog doesn't just bark, but have people intervene and break it up before the other person can retaliate.  Smitty has heart and fight, but his history also shows he was very deliberate in who he attacked and how he went about doing it so that it favored his odds of winning and/or going unchallenged.  He would not be able to physically take Cam one on one.

[weyco2000]

Anyone remember Smitty doing jumping jacks in the end zone as Pickles laid crumpled on the ground? Imagine working with hot head like him each day, he should've been released immediately after punching the first teammate... Any of us would've been fired and arrested.


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[E CaT PanTHer 2]

1 minute ago, Proudiddy said:

Does a softy blatantly celebrate, dance, and dab in the face of opponents he just athletically and physically bested?  Then, after doing so and being physically attacked for doing so, he turns around to face his assailant and resumes fearlessly dancing in their face again?  Lol.

Just one example, but Cam aint no punk.  Which is why i suspect it was more of a scuffle where Smitty knew there wouldn't be a one on one...  throw some meaningless punches to show the dog doesn't just bark, but have people intervene and break it up before the other person can retaliate.  Smitty has heart and fight, but his history also shows he was very deliberate in who he attacked and how he went about doing it so thatvim favored his odds of winning.  He would not be able to physically take Cam one on one.

well in all fairness, that was done on a football field with helmets, referees, and 70,000 people watching. physically dominating someone in a game is completely different than physically dominating someone one on one in a fight.

again I'm not saying Cam is a punk or a puss who wouldn't defend himself, but just his demeanor, his personality,and how he interacts with people and carries himself outside of football, I just don't see him as a stone cold street fighter, even against someone smaller than him like Smitty. 

but then again, what do I know. 

[Proudiddy]

56 minutes ago, CatMan72 said:

To play devil's advocate - why would Smitty keep quiet about this?

I think others have alluded to it, but in Smitty's mind, i think it's entirely possible he thinks of it as business as usual and doesnt remember the faceoffs as anything significant.  He may perceive that as normal and wouldn't get why anyone else would think anything of it.  He also gains nothing by admitting it as he transitions to tv personality who eventually plans on retiring here.  Cam is the face of the franchise now, and a league MVP...  wouldn't be a good look for him to admit it with plans on bringing him back to be honored by the organization.  This is also where I suspect JR has remained in contact with him and asked him to avoid stirring anything up.

[E CaT PanTHer 2]

lets see if he responds lol 

 

[Proudiddy]

9 minutes ago, E CaT PanTHer 2 said:

well in all fairness, that was done on a football field with helmets, referees, and 70,000 people watching. physically dominating someone in a game is completely different than physically dominating someone one on one in a fight.

again I'm not saying Cam is a punk or a puss who wouldn't defend himself, but just his demeanor, his personality,and how he interacts with people and carries himself outside of football, I just don't see him as a stone cold street fighter, even against someone smaller than him like Smitty. 

but then again, what do I know. 

Yeah, who knows in regards to true demeanor.  The real point i was getting at was, he may not be a willing fighter, but I don't think anyone scares or intimidates him physically, so I don't see him backing down from anyone if challenged (see Norman photo lol). Doesnt mean he wouldnt look for the path of least resistance if given a choice...  And along those same lines, I don't think Smitty would genuinely try to instigate an actual fight with Cam if he's facing him up one on one...  no matter how fearless he is.

[Cookie Lyon]

I just can't picture Cam getting punched twice in the face by a guy that's no taller than Cam's kneecaps. If true, Smitty must've sucker punched him. I've always thought that Smitty was jealous of Cam and that's why I'm thinking this is true. 

 

 

[E CaT PanTHer 2]

btw, we all know the mainstream media reads the huddle to get their hot takes from some of the more well versed and credible posters on this board only to subsequently create articles themselves like it's their own story coming from their own sources. 

I give it 2 days before this rumor is on ESPN NFL insiders and other mainstream rumor outlets, and eventually, a rumor the whole world will come to know. 

props @PhillyB you just unleashed a beast.