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Tennessee - I know why you're bad.


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You had a nice regular season then lost your first playoff game at home, thanks in part to a sub-par perfomance from your inconsistent quarterback. In the offseason you lost your best DT, and now have very little success getting pressure up the middle. Most importantly, you added no real depth to your team. Even though you weren't good enough to win a Superbowl, you hoped staying the same would equate to a better result when much of your competition made moves to get better.

In the NFL if you're not growing you're dying, and 0-4 is the result.

Or 0-3.

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You had a nice regular season then lost your first playoff game at home, thanks in part to a sub-par perfomance from your inconsistent quarterback. In the offseason you lost your best DT, and now have very little success getting pressure up the middle. Most importantly, you added no real depth to your team. Even though you weren't good enough to win a Superbowl, you hoped staying the same would equate to a better result when much of your competition made moves to get better.

In the NFL if you're not growing you're dying, and 0-4 is the result.

Or 0-3.

Sounds familiar

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you really think jeff fisher is holding them back?
he is part of the problem. he isn't as good as people think he is.

coaching for 16 years and only six winning records? one superbowl appearance? 11 total playoff games?

how long does it take before you realize you have gone as far as you can with a coach? at what point do you say "he just isn't getting the job done."?

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You had a nice regular season then lost your first playoff game at home, thanks in part to a sub-par perfomance from your inconsistent quarterback. In the offseason you lost your best DT, and now have very little success getting pressure up the middle. Most importantly, you added no real depth to your team. Even though you weren't good enough to win a Superbowl, you hoped staying the same would equate to a better result when much of your competition made moves to get better.

In the NFL if you're not growing you're dying, and 0-4 is the result.

Or 0-3.

good thread.....although Id hate to be that team!! hahahaah............ wait :skep:

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For every Tennessee and Carolina who try and build consistency by locking up their starters and building through the draft, you also have teams like Tampa, Detroit, Jets, Rams, Kansas City etc, that changed large chunks from coaches, to front office, veterans, etc.

The results are mixed as you would expect. I don't think the problem would have been fixed with more backups or even drafting a first round quarterback. The starters have played poorly and the defense has been abysmal. I had hoped the offense would have bailed out the defense until it rounded into form but that surely hasn't happened. Until the defense improves we will flounder. And that will take time in the system and players being where they are supposed to be. The offense has been every bit as big a problem as the defense.

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he is part of the problem. he isn't as good as people think he is.

coaching for 16 years and only six winning records? one superbowl appearance? 11 total playoff games?

how long does it take before you realize you have gone as far as you can with a coach? at what point do you say "he just isn't getting the job done."?

I agree. As is well known, eventually players stop listening. That's when it's time to part ways. A disappointing playoff loss to a team you should beat is often the tipping point. Players are smarter than they're given credit for, and I'm sure the core (remaining) Titans knew they wouldn't be better than last year when they got no added help. Same with the Panthers players.

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LOL, tons of similarities between these teams this year - they even have our very first draft pick!

Fisher and Fox are in the same boat as well, two good coaches who have worn out there welcome. At a certain point, no matter how good of a coach you are, guys stop listenting to you. The players may not even be aware that they're no longer really listenting to you, they just tune you out.

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