ex-GM Michael Lombardi on Gettleman situation

[TheSpecialJuan]

I think what happens is Gettleman didn’t have the owner buying in. Typically, the way ownership should run is: [The GM’s] running the team. I’m letting him run the team. It was hard for [Patriots owner] Robert Kraft to lose Vince Wilfork. He loved him as a player. He adored him. But he’s given [Patriots coach Bill] Belichick the autonomy to run the team, and Bill felt it was in their best interest was to make a contract that was worthwhile to the Patriots, and Vince didn’t want to take it. And I think [Kraft] gives [Belichick] that authority, and once Kraft steps over that authority … there’s dissension within the ranks. You have to add another layer into this, too: Ron Rivera. Ron Rivera was hired by Marty Hurney

https://theringer.com/carolina-panthers-gm-street-dave-gettleman-fired-3f39c2941f7a

[TheSpecialJuan]

I think Hurney will end up getting an Olsen contract done. He’ll get Thomas Davis a contract. I believe they’ll go through the procedures of looking for somebody else … but at the end of the day, I think Jerry Richardson really likes Marty Hurney. I think he likes the way he treats the players, and that’s important to him. Do I think they’re going to continue to win and continue to get good players? I’m not sure of that, because I think Dave Gettleman was really good at his job.

[frash.exe]

this is my intuition speaking atp but this whole thing just reeks. gettleman is seemingly fired out of nowhere and in less than two days, they bring in hurney to drive the bus "for now". i'm not ready to call collusion yet but if something leaks about there being an effort to push him out, i won't be surprised.

[Pejorative Miscreant]

This is about as speculative as the threads last week. Someone weighs in with .02.   Saw the article in the observer where downer and person basically read the huddle (ok. Fowler read the huddle to person). And summarized the 60 threads.  

It is what it is folks.  Let's just hope we can continue to win.  

[Jangler]

[Jangler]

27 minutes ago, frash.exe said:

this is my intuition speaking atp but this whole thing just reeks. gettleman is seemingly fired out of nowhere and in less than two days, they bring in hurney to drive the bus "for now". i'm not ready to call collusion yet but if something leaks about there being an effort to push him out, i won't be surprised.

and to let Oher go. yes, we knew that was going to happen, but to save it until Hurney took over?  yeah, this is higher than the mile high sh!t that lost 50.

[MHS831]

The players LOVED Hurney---that is the problem.  I remember when he re-signed DelHomme after Tommy John surgery at about twice his market value...WHen he had to cut him a year later, he flew to Chicago to meet with Jake's agent and they wept...He overpaid for RBs when their stock was down--he had about $76m and re-signed the core of teams that went 4-12 and 6-10.  He created cap hell for us, and the minute we get out of it, here he comes back to "save the day."  I assure you, He will mortgage the future again to win now, so he can have the interim status removed. 

I get a player's coach. I do not get a player's GM.  Heck, a Super Bowl and 3 playoff appearances--trash that because the players want more money and think their contract is no longer fair.

When we are back in cap hell, when we have signed Mike Adams to a 5-year contract, when we are back to 4--12 and 6-10 streaks, maybe Jerry will realize that MH is a dumbass ex-reporter who has sucked his entire career.

[countryboi]

Gettleman is that guy at your job that's amazing at his job but is a fuging dick to deal with. Hurney is that guy the boss loves, the business partners love him but he is kinda poo at his job. Gettleman is always the guy that gets fired.


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[frash.exe]

4 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

The players LOVED Hurney---that is the problem.  I remember when he re-signed DelHomme after Tommy John surgery at about twice his market value...WHen he had to cut him a year later, he flew to Chicago to meet with Jake's agent and they wept...He overpaid for RBs when their stock was down--he had about $76m and re-signed the core of teams that went 4-12 and 6-10.  He created cap hell for us, and the minute we get out of it, here he comes back to "save the day."  I assure you, He will mortgage the future again to win now, so he can have the interim status removed. 

I get a player's coach. I do not get a player's GM.  Heck, a Super Bowl and 3 playoff appearances--trash that because the players want more money and think their contract is no longer fair.

When we are back in cap hell, when we have signed Mike Adams to a 5-year contract, when we are back to 4--12 and 6-10 streaks, maybe Jerry will realize that MH is a dumbass ex-reporter who has sucked his entire career.

i don't know exactly what a jiggling sack of gold doubloons sounds like, but i bet that's what the players hear when he walks down the hallway.

you nailed it. he's very popular with the players. so much so that they all tweeted about how they were displeased that he was let go and couldn't understand it. while they were 1-5. lol.

[Daddy_Uncle]

Michael Dumb farty

[SmartyHurney]

5 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

The players LOVED Hurney---that is the problem.  I remember when he re-signed DelHomme after Tommy John surgery at about twice his market value...WHen he had to cut him a year later, he flew to Chicago to meet with Jake's agent and they wept...He overpaid for RBs when their stock was down--he had about $76m and re-signed the core of teams that went 4-12 and 6-10.  He created cap hell for us, and the minute we get out of it, here he comes back to "save the day."  I assure you, He will mortgage the future again to win now, so he can have the interim status removed. 

I get a player's coach. I do not get a player's GM.  Heck, a Super Bowl and 3 playoff appearances--trash that because the players want more money and think their contract is no longer fair.

When we are back in cap hell, when we have signed Mike Adams to a 5-year contract, when we are back to 4--12 and 6-10 streaks, maybe Jerry will realize that MH is a dumbass ex-reporter who has sucked his entire career.

the panthers were back to 6-10 last year, and another top 10 pick added to this franchise.

the panthers have been out of cap hell since 2014 before he tagged Greg Hardy. tho even after the tag Dave had enough to sign an entire new WR corps and defensive backfield, which was necessary after cutting or letting walk so many players.

 

remember folks the cap increased 44 million, by over 10 million per year under dave. on the other hand during hurneys last four seasons the cap actually went down.

[SmartyHurney]

also mike adams is another gettleman signing. i don't know why you think hruney would be attached to him

[Saca312]

2 minutes ago, SmartyHurney said:

remember folks the cap increased 44 million, by over 10 million per year under dave. on the other hand during hurneys last four seasons the cap actually went down.

That's a bs lie that has been disproven already.

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The cap, year by year since Hurney first got the job:

2016     $155.27 million
2015     $143.28 million
2014     $133 million
2013     $123 million
2012     $120.6 million
2011     $120 million
2010     Uncapped
2009     $123 million
2008     $116 million
2007     $109 million
2006     $102 million
2005     $85.5 million
2004     $80.582 million
2003     $75.007 million
2002     $71.101 million

The cap from 2013 to 2016 (The Gettleman years) went up by around 35 million.  Over Hurney's time at GM, it increased by almost 50 million.  And that's not even counting the uncapped year.

 

 

[The Huddler]

As time goes by the more pissed i become