i just bought this here computer at wal mart now lemme talk bout REAL FANS

[Fiz]

I'm sick and tired of this "family friendly" atmosphere, every elite team has a brutal feel to it, and I'm being told to sit down when I cheer, get the f**k out.

Tell like it is brother! If I havent said it once Ive said it a million times...BOA stadium = the worst atmosphere in all sports!

Oh great...another person living in denial because they are embarrassed about how pathetic the atmosphere is at our stadium. BOA stadium is probably the only stadium where people look at you funny for cheering. Its too much of a preppy, white collar, snot nose whine and cheese atmosphere. Anyone who knows anything about football knows this is the truth! It will never change as long as the team remains in charlotte or as long as the Richardson own this team.

I'm sick of all these fake ass fans.People who jump on the bandwagon everytime we have a good season,or become fans but have another team.You see them at the games with that 05 dodge,jeep,whatever else is on it jersey.We as a team have a hard enough time getting real followers cause of Charlotte being the banking capitol and all the transplanted people here.It will take us winning it all to get the support we need by the fans and the area.I hope it happens soon,cause i can't believe we still lost the Hornets.If the Panthers leave, i'm stuck with pulling for them cause of all of my Panther tattoos,but they are my team now.They are my team monday,monday ten years from now,no matter where they are.So this thread is for all the real fans like me,we are what makes the team a team.Without us,there would be no BOA place to worship

I know you guys are really excited because your trailer park just got internet and you want the world to know how you feel about the atmosphere at bank of america stadium, because it's a serious and pressing issue that requires discussion right now with everything going on for the panthers, but no one cares at all and we'd all be a lot happier on this little corner of the internet if you wouldn't bother us with such mundane crap.

The Argument: BoA Stadium is the Worst Place in all of Sport History Ever And This is Why the Panthers are Bad

Well I think it's pretty simple to see why this is a flawed, worthless, easily dissected argument.

Firstly nothing fans do at all during the game has much of an affect on what happens on the field. Maybe sometimes they can get loud enough to force the QB to take a timeout, but all that does is make them switch to a silent count for the rest of the game. This can be pretty misleading because announcers like to scream "Whoa ho ho look at that crowd noise" and people watching TV think "yeah we can do that too" then get angry when everyone won't stand up on 1st and 10 from the opposite side of the field.

The truth to this is that football players simulate crowd noise with jet engines and no matter how loud you and your toothless girlfriend in a pink bedazzled jake delhomme jersey get you're not going to be louder than that.

Secondly, some people think the defense needs to be "pumped" up. If the defense needs a bunch of people yelling to play well then they don't need to be collecting a paycheck. The idea of home field advantage almost certainly has more to do with logistical problems associated with traveling, and playing on a different kinds of grass than anything coming from the stands.

The Argument: This is the Quietest Place in All Sports!

No it is not. In fact, it's quite average. I've been to playoff games in Green Bay. I've been to more Panthers game in Atlanta than most of you have been pro football games period. I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.

The simple fact of the matter is that with the exception of the Eagles and maybe the Bills (who are indescribably insane for some reason) most atmospheres at NFL games are remarkably similar. There is a lot of stuff going on in a stadium, people yell when good things happen, they get easily discouraged. Yes, Lincoln Financial Field looks like some Byzantine hippodrome, but that is a very rare exception.

The Argument: They've Priced Out the Real Fans

While I agree that the NFL has basically made the games inaccessible for lower classes, and if you're unlucky enough to be in a city where the elites don't decide to sell out a game you'll be blacked out, this means nothing about real fans.

What is a real fan?

I've missed eight panther home games in my entire life. I sit in the lower deck. When I think real fan, I think some inbred hick with a picket tooth slack jawed grin. I think of someone who stumbled down to the lower sections who wants to get the crowd "pumped up." I think of some dude who gets drunk, picks a fight, then shits down his pant leg.

Basically I think of AKPantherfan.

I really don't know where I'm going with this anymore but it's stupid and childish to think that there's a proper way to behave at a football game. From everything I see the Panthers crowds are comparable to other teams. Yeah you can't take your shirt off but no one wants to see your jiggling gut and totally awesome new tribal arm band tattoo.

If you want to just pick a fight somewhere wait until your ex's new boyfriend comes to collect child support. It's hard to cheer for a bad team, not to mention one that plays as unexcitingly as the Panthers have since time immemorial.

There's a time and a place to get drunk on poo beer, piss yourself, and f**k a goat; they're called South Carolina games.

[Kettle]

i'm at work right now, and can't take the time to read it all Fiz, but by the bolded parts....i know you must be right

[SMACKDAB]

Please.....take it back....and if you don't do it soon I'm texting security.

It's making you look bad.

[Jangler]

The goat was asking for it!

[rayzor]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Fiz again.

[Kettle]

while I don't agree with a stab at AK, Fiz is correct on a lot of things. money doesn't make you a real fan, no one wants to see many of us with out shirts, and complaints about the stadium, its noise level and atmosphere are ignorant.

[Claws]

I know you guys are really excited because your trailer park just got internet and you want the world to know how you feel about the atmosphere at bank of america stadium, because it's a serious and pressing issue that requires discussion right now with everything going on for the panthers, but no one cares at all and we'd all be a lot happier on this little corner of the internet if you wouldn't bother us with such mundane crap.

The Argument: BoA Stadium is the Worst Place in all of Sport History Ever And This is Why the Panthers are Bad

Well I think it's pretty simple to see why this is a flawed, worthless, easily dissected argument.

Firstly nothing fans do at all during the game has much of an affect on what happens on the field. Maybe sometimes they can get loud enough to force the QB to take a timeout, but all that does is make them switch to a silent count for the rest of the game. This can be pretty misleading because announcers like to scream "Whoa ho ho look at that crowd noise" and people watching TV think "yeah we can do that too" then get angry when everyone won't stand up on 1st and 10 from the opposite side of the field.

The truth to this is that football players simulate crowd noise with jet engines and no matter how loud you and your toothless girlfriend in a pink bedazzled jake delhomme jersey get you're not going to be louder than that.

Secondly, some people think the defense needs to be "pumped" up. If the defense needs a bunch of people yelling to play well then they don't need to be collecting a paycheck. The idea of home field advantage almost certainly has more to do with logistical problems associated with traveling, and playing on a different kinds of grass than anything coming from the stands.

The Argument: This is the Quietest Place in All Sports!

No it is not. In fact, it's quite average. I've been to playoff games in Green Bay. I've been to more Panthers game in Atlanta than most of you have been pro football games period. I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.

The simple fact of the matter is that with the exception of the Eagles and maybe the Bills (who are indescribably insane for some reason) most atmospheres at NFL games are remarkably similar. There is a lot of stuff going on in a stadium, people yell when good things happen, they get easily discouraged. Yes, Lincoln Financial Field looks like some Byzantine hippodrome, but that is a very rare exception.

The Argument: They've Priced Out the Real Fans

While I agree that the NFL has basically made the games inaccessible for lower classes, and if you're unlucky enough to be in a city where the elites don't decide to sell out a game you'll be blacked out, this means nothing about real fans.

What is a real fan?

I've missed eight panther home games in my entire life. I sit in the lower deck. When I think real fan, I think some inbred hick with a picket tooth slack jawed grin. I think of someone who stumbled down to the lower sections who wants to get the crowd "pumped up." I think of some dude who gets drunk, picks a fight, then shits down his pant leg.

Basically I think of AKPantherfan.

I really don't know where I'm going with this anymore but it's stupid and childish to think that there's a proper way to behave at a football game. From everything I see the Panthers crowds are comparable to other teams. Yeah you can't take your shirt off but no one wants to see your jiggling gut and totally awesome new tribal arm band tattoo.

If you want to just pick a fight somewhere wait until your ex's new boyfriend comes to collect child support. It's hard to cheer for a bad team, not to mention one that plays as unexcitingly as the Panthers have since time immemorial.

There's a time and a place to get drunk on poo beer, piss yourself, and f**k a goat; they're called South Carolina games.

I really wish to hell that I've had the pleasure of attending a game at BOA so that I could weigh in.

But I will say I'm damn glad someone rebutted that sh!t those pricks were spoutin off cause it was 1) unbelievable and 2) pissin me off.

Thanks Fiz.

[mmmbeans]

is your computer an e-machine? those things are fuging sweet.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

Sticky this poo.

[Jase]

I got my computer at Aaron's, thank you very much. Only $150 per month.

Now don't you look like a fool.

[Fiz]

i kinda believe that the government should subsidize computer purchase and internet service because ideally an educated populace is the best defense against tyranny and it'd be a lot more difficult for the government to get away with stuff if everyone had access to pure information which is basically what the internet is and why members of both party want to censor it but god damn if you have to put something on lay away you don't need to be buying it

[Claws]

I got my computer at Aaron's, thank you very much. Only $150 per month.

Now don't you look like a fool.

:rofl:

[Kurb]

His rants have been entertaining these past few weeks.

[thejimmy]

I agree. Our fans are the same as any other team, basically. any team that loses, including Green Bay, will have empty seats. Crowd noise gets loud when things are good, quiet when not. And I like the rule that you can't take your shirt off. I have zero desire to see an idiot who looks like John Goodman without his shirt.