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So I guess the Jets should fire Ryan and get rid of Sanchez, same for Dallas


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if you wanted to make an argument, you should have made one

posting a snarky three line poo thread while you smugly grin and rub your beer gut isn't making an argument, especially when it's an unclever rehash of something that a four year old already came up with in week 1

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Let's debate Fizzy. So is Jake the issue my man? I've made several arguments on this board that extremists just sidestep and throw their hands up and say "Jake sucks, Fox sucks". Fox is the best thing ever to happen to this organization. We aren't that much older than Houston/Jax and we've had much more success than them. What about the Browns, they haven't been good once since they came off expansion. People here just are not being loyal and appreciating what has been our best run. Is it coming to an end? Maybe. But jeez, we owe it to Fox and company to let them go with class, no just kick them to the curb! So bring it hoss, I'm waiting.

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Let's debate Fizzy. So is Jake the issue my man? I've made several arguments on this board that extremists just sidestep and throw their hands up and say "Jake sucks, Fox sucks". Fox is the best thing ever to happen to this organization. We aren't that much older than Houston/Jax and we've had much more success than them. What about the Browns, they haven't been good once since they came off expansion. People here just are not being loyal and appreciating what has been our best run. Is it coming to an end? Maybe. But jeez, we owe it to Fox and company to let them go with class, no just kick them to the curb! So bring it hoss, I'm waiting.

I know I'll regret this but what do we owe them? Does he get paid for his services? Has he produced based on his salary? My answers are, nothing, yes, and no. Fox and Co. have not produced a consistant playoff caliber team since they were hired. IMHO that is what they are paid for and they are failing to do it Anything else does not matter.:mad2:

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"we should forever be indebted to them for the superbowl run. they are the most winning HC/QB the team has ever had so we should let them stay in their roles until they call it quits. we should never ask for better because we owe so much to those two for coming the closest to making this team relevant. we are better than some really bad teams...usually. all of that means that we should be happy to have fox and hurney."

blah.....what a bunch of crap.

set your sights a lot higher. i'm happy to just have an NFL team here but I want that team to be the best or at least consistently within reach of being the best. i want it to be consistently winning. i don't want to look at an overall record to say that our coach is good. i want to see every year having a .500 or greater season. i want us to get into the playoffs every year. i want us to be fighting to get a ring every year. i don't want to be happy saying we were almost the best once or twice. i want the panthers to be the best and we can't be with fox/hurney/jake. if they can be then they need to prove it. potential is meaningless. results are all that matters.

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Let's debate Fizzy. So is Jake the issue my man? I've made several arguments on this board that extremists just sidestep and throw their hands up and say "Jake sucks, Fox sucks". Fox is the best thing ever to happen to this organization. We aren't that much older than Houston/Jax and we've had much more success than them. What about the Browns, they haven't been good once since they came off expansion. People here just are not being loyal and appreciating what has been our best run. Is it coming to an end? Maybe. But jeez, we owe it to Fox and company to let them go with class, no just kick them to the curb! So bring it hoss, I'm waiting.

Did you really just call somebody Hoss while making a point to let the coaching staff go with class? LOL Next you'll be telling me to raise my pinky finger when I drink a Milwaukee's Best. Sheesh!!!!!

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